F... Wal-Mart

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Australia is able to claim that title!


Please explain to me whos life Welfare has ruined and why? Granted Welfare needs changes to be successfull. The basis of it is to help those people who need a little help. I've known people who abused it, and I knew people who were able to get on their feet and become successfull because of it. A guy I used to work with had a kid out of High School, he worked 10 hours a day, but without medical insurance he was screwed. He got Welfare for a little while, got back on his feet, and is doing very well today.

Also, when you look at the cost of daycare. I believe the numbers (too lazy to go look them up now) but assume we have a single mother with two kids. If the best job she can find is for around 9-10 dollars. It actually saves her money to not go to work because of Daycare charges.

Now, there are holes in Welfare no doubt and I hate to see that money wasted on someone who is lazy, but lets not pretend that Welfare doesn't also go towards helping good and honest people who are down on their luck.

Go to any poor area and look around at all the people doing nothing. Its amazing how many people don't even care to get a job and will live of wellfair and food stamps for as long as they can. Yes it does help some but its a mighty high price we pay for the one's it does help.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Go to any poor area and look around at all the people doing nothing. Its amazing how many people don't even care to get a job and will live of wellfair and food stamps for as long as they can. Yes it does help some but its a mighty high price we pay for the one's it does help.

not just welfare. unemployment is just as bad.the system has soooo many holes in it as it stands right now. it is way too easy for someone to minipulate the system and i will give you one example. we had a guy work where i do and he was worthless. i mean he would do nothing all day but play games on the comp. at his station . this was allowed to go on because Mgmt. sucks at my job. he got himself fired on purpose so he could collect umemployment. i believe he had to wait 6 weeks for it to start but he recieved it nontheless. all he has to do is prove he has been looking for work and applied at X number of places to be eligible for benefits. he has been going in and out of places and when he gets an interview he asks for way more then the jobs will pay and he applies for jobs he no expierience at.they need to start watching these programs that are designed to help the needy. they have turned into a free ride for lazy f*cks.

[mcalderone10]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

not just welfare. unemployment is just as bad.the system has soooo many holes in it as it stands right now. it is way too easy for someone to minipulate the system and i will give you one example. we had a guy work where i do and he was worthless. i mean he would do nothing all day but play games on the comp. at his station . this was allowed to go on because Mgmt. sucks at my job. he got himself fired on purpose so he could collect umemployment. i believe he had to wait 6 weeks for it to start but he recieved it nontheless. all he has to do is prove he has been looking for work and applied at X number of places to be eligible for benefits. he has been going in and out of places and when he gets an interview he asks for way more then the jobs will pay and he applies for jobs he no expierience at.they need to start watching these programs that are designed to help the needy. they have turned into a free ride for lazy f*cks.

bad people manipulate the system to benifit themselves. Your example is on an individual scale, where the guy lived off unemployment. Just think about if a company(say walmart) did something like this to a different program or program(say wellfare medicare and other programs) on a larger scale where they pay their employees low enough wages that they can apply for these programs. We are basically paying taxes for walmart to pay their employees less so the gov't will be forced to provide medical insurance food stamps and other stuff so they can survive. Like you said we are giving a free ride to some cheap f's in walmart. There will always be lazy people and people who try to manipulate the system, but no one manipulates the system like that top 1%. Why do you think so many rich people have accountants?

o and to the other guy sure documentaries aren't always all facts, that's why they provide places you can go to check their information. You'd be surprised that ur fox news might not be as accurate as some of the documentaries. You always have to take into account the spin/bias so look past that and look at the facts.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by mcalderone10

bad people manipulate the system to benifit themselves. Your example is on an individual scale, where the guy lived off unemployment. Just think about if a company(say walmart) did something like this to a different program or program(say wellfare medicare and other programs) on a larger scale where they pay their employees low enough wages that they can apply for these programs. We are basically paying taxes for walmart to pay their employees less so the gov't will be forced to provide medical insurance food stamps and other stuff so they can survive. Like you said we are giving a free ride to some cheap f's in walmart. There will always be lazy people and people who try to manipulate the system, but no one manipulates the system like that top 1%. Why do you think so many rich people have accountants?

o and to the other guy sure documentaries aren't always all facts, that's why they provide places you can go to check their information. You'd be surprised that ur fox news might not be as accurate as some of the documentaries. You always have to take into account the spin/bias so look past that and look at the facts.

you forgot to mention that some walmart active promote the use of food stamps etc to their employees WHEN THEY SIGN UP for jobs.

[Misterbillysells]

Wal-mart is responsible for 9-11

[That Guy]

well, you can't stop globalization. australia tried it and it almost completely destroyed their economy (the cheapest pairs of jeans cost $40-60 USD etc). people just couldn't afford as much as they used to be able to buy, so they had to backtrack completely in that area.

[mcalderone10]

its hard to rely on people to make the world a better place and not manipulate to make an insane amt of money that you'll never be able to spend in a lifetime so your grandchildren will inherit billions and never have to work a day in their life.