B. Lloyd Overrated?

[Longtimefan]

It continues to amaze me that every time we sign a player someone, somewhere always has something negative to say about them. "Overated" we haven't even had a chance to rate him yet, how can he be overated? I chose not to dwell on the negatives, and as far as him being a #1 #2, or #3 receiver dosen't matter, all I want him to do is catch the ball when it't thrown to him, make plays when they're there and be a productive receiver. His numbers will dictate whether he's one, two or three.

[Daseal]

I dont think Jimmy Farris or Taylor Jacobs acts as if they're a #1.

Anyhow, I'm not sold on Saunders getting production out of WRs. I think he gets great production from his O Line, RB, and TE. I still question what he can do with the QB and WR positions.

Granted he hasn't exactly had the best receivers or QBs to work with, but Im curious.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I dont think Jimmy Farris or Taylor Jacobs acts as if they're a #1.

That could be part of Jacobs' problem. Speaking purely from a self-confidence point of view, it's widely known that in order to compete in this league, every player has to look at himself like he's #1.

If people in San Fransisco think Lloyd is a #3 at best, and as That Guy pointed out, gives us just one spectacular play per game, that's still better than the two aforementioned bozos who lined up for us after Patten and Thrash were lost to injuries.

[Master4Caster]

Yeah, and Santana Moss was a no. 3 receiver who thought he could be no. 1, too. How did that work out? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but all this stuff is settled on the field.

She says Antonio Bryant is better than Lloyd, but not as good as Randle-El - who is also on the Redskin roster. I think Lloyd and Randle-El are both great additions. We mostly need them to just get open and catch the ball consistently. Anything else is a bonus.

There are deeper issues with the 49ers. Like, how come no real Bill Walsh disciple is coaching in the birthplace of the west coast offense? Why did they trade an ok QB with NFL experience (Tim Rattay) to start a rookie? Where's the running game and defense on this team? In head2head games with Arizona, coached by Walsh disciple Dennis Green (who probably should be coaching the Niners), who wins the series?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Master4Caster

Yeah, and Santana Moss was a no. 3 receiver who thought he could be no. 1, too. How did that work out? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but all this stuff is settled on the field.

moss did have a better track record and an 1100 yard season beforehand though... and he was definately a #2, not a #3 for a lot of his time in NY. though gardner also had a 1000 season and proceeded to do jack after he left, so i guess it works both ways.


gibbs and williams have shown lots of big hits on talent (washington, griffin, springs, taylor, cooley, moss, portis) and no real misses (barrow, noble, fiore etc were all paid like major injury risks and jason campbell hasn't proved himself one way or the other yet).

Anyways, like i was saying, gibbs and williams are good talent evaluators right now, so i'll trust them.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by That Guy

gibbs and williams have shown lots of big hits on talent (washington, griffin, springs, taylor, cooley, moss, portis) and no real misses (barrow, noble, fiore etc were all paid like major injury risks and jason campbell hasn't proved himself one way or the other yet).

wasn't noble a spurrier pick

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by steveo395

wasn't noble a spurrier pick

yeah, but gibbs chose not to cut him when it looked like his career was already over. most people had just assumed he was gone.

[Master4Caster]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Anyways, like i was saying, gibbs and williams are good talent evaluators right now, so i'll trust them.

Gud enuff 4 me 2!

[Redskins_P]

didn't we hear the same crap about Santana???

IMO, uis all about getting the opportunity to make plays, and in Al Saunders offense, I'm sure Lloyd will get his opportunities.

[Redskins8588]

People out in San Fran must be blind to the fact that in the 2005 season alone Lloyd had to catch balls from 4 different QB's (Alex Smith, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey and Cody Pickett) http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/SF. And 3 different QB's the year prior...

[ArtMonkDrillz]

San Fran has been a half-assed organization for the past few years, no wonder they got half-assed efforts from their players. I think that Lloyd will be forced to work harder and keep his concentration here.

[ChillWill]

Reports are that VD in San Fran is a real burner

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by ChillWill

Reports are that VD in San Fran is a real burner

Ouch. But we're not comparing Vernon Davis to Lloyd are we? Keep Davis is the TE category.

[LBrown43]

His highlight reel showed me a tough guy who can make things happen. With a line that can givee the quarteback some time to read his recievers, Lloyd will be a big threat to add to Moss, Randel El and Cooley. Somebody is going to be open a whole bunch this year. Just gotta give Brunell or Campbell time.

[mheisig]

Anyone who can do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1et...randon%20lloyd

Is one hell of a football player in my book.

This one is good too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn59E...randon%20lloyd

I know highlight reels only show the good stuff, but DAMN this guy can make some amazing grabs. We're not just talking highlights of QBs throwing a nice long pass that hit him square on, we're talking freaking AMAZING one handed, atheletic catches. This dude just makes things happen.