This is pissing me off!

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by VTSkins897

a hint of doubt might come from the fact that saunders' offense is complex. i don't think it will hold us back much but it's something to consider.

why don't some of you number people dig up his preseason numbers in KC. also, find out the chiefs regular season record his first year as OC there.

In his first year, they only went 6-10, but they had the 4th best offense, (6th best passing, 6th best rushing) and they had no good receivers. All they had was Tony Gonzalez

[SmootSmack]

If we lose to Minnesota, it's still not the end of the season. Remember we lost three games in a row in November last year to fall to 5-6. That was supposedly the end of the world...but it wasn't.

That said, I have this feeling (can't explain it) that we're going to beat the Vikings to the tune of something like 24-3. I see us opening with some ridiculous play-Randle-El on a reverse, throws to Cooley for a 50 yard gain. Something crazy like that. Not the first play from scrimmage, but very early in the game.

[scowan]

One more comment from me about Preseason and then I will move on to thinking about the Regular season. I get the feeling that after Portis got hurt in game one that Gibbs threw up his hands and said "Enough with this Preseason stuff". Then he basically would not let any of the starters play any more the month of August. I mean if you listened to his comments last night during the post game, it was like "Moss had a runny nose so we held him out last night. Randy Thomas had a hang nail so he watched from the sidelines, and Jansen got his feelings hurt during warmups so we let him watch as well." He was ultra conservative playing the starters during August.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

38-14 redskins beat vikes.... just came back from the future we are going to be a great football team this year. Look Out and Don't Doubt.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Marty?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I thought their play was vastly improved last night. Molinaro actually looked decent when he was pulling.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I thought their play was vastly improved last night. Molinaro actually looked decent when he was pulling.

He had two holding calls... I wouldn't call that "vastly improved".

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Meh. I thought some calls were iffy anyway, one of them was total BS. I mean Collins looked to have decent time to throw most of the time.

[hesscl34]

Wasn't he sacked 3 times?? And even more for Collins? Our O line depth is in big trouble.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Also remember this, is isn't like we would be putting in 5 backups at o-line. I KNOW there are at least 2-3 backups we could plug in and be fine on the offensive line.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Also remember this, is isn't like we would be putting in 5 backups at o-line. I KNOW there are at least 2-3 backups we could plug in and be fine on the offensive line.

Even when first sting was in Brunell just missed a sack becuase Fulhioa(whatever his name is, got beat). I didn't like it. This isn't the HOGS of our past SB teams. I think I saw ONE play that seemed perfect and like it was quality O line (SB quality).

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Even when first sting was in Brunell just missed a sack becuase Fulhioa(whatever his name is, got beat). I didn't like it. This isn't the HOGS of our past SB teams. I think I saw ONE play that seemed perfect and like it was quality O line (SB quality).

Then here is the question I present to you and the rest of the people who are scared. Has the rest of the league improved so much during the offseason that a 10-6 team that won a playoff game can't block all of a sudden? Or was it that OUR players just decided that were going to be horrible? It's one thing if we were the Cardinals or 49ers who had arguably one of the worst lines in the league. Our line came back intact, other teams didn't improve that much and we didn't regress.

[hesscl34]

I'm a diehard Redskins fan. I think Joe Gibbs is a God, but our football team is about our players and I just feel like they don't care all that much and it is making me nuts. Is it ego? Is it over confidence?? Is it injuries? I understand pre-season, but it's the game before the BIG game. There should be some increase in the level of play. They should be showing signs of growth, of being pumped up a little more..etc. I haven't seen it. I’ve seen the same thing every pre-season game - poor play. Our first string O line needs to be sharp, perfect, and on it. Letting a Raven past you to get to our starting QB... beat BAD by a Raven??? Dropping balls left and right, missing tackles, endless penalties because the only way to stop the other team from making a play is to hold a guy or interfere?? Come on. It's pathetic. I'm pissed off. Joe Gibbs deserves a better performance, he asks for a better performance and he gets hardly any effort. I don't see HEART. Where are our SKINS?????

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I'm a diehard Redskins fan. I think Joe Gibbs is a God, but our football team is about our players and I just feel like they don't care all that much and it is making me nuts. Is it ego? Is it over confidence?? Is it injuries? I understand pre-season, but it's the game before the BIG game. There should be some increase in the level of play. They should be showing signs of growth, of being pumped up a little more..etc. I haven't seen it. I’ve seen the same thing every pre-season game - poor play. Our first string O line needs to be sharp, perfect, and on it. Letting a Raven past you to get to our starting QB... beat BAD by a Raven??? Dropping balls left and right, missing tackles, endless penalties because the only way to stop the other team from making a play is to hold a guy or interfere?? Come on. It's pathetic. I'm pissed off. Joe Gibbs deserves a better performance, he asks for a better performance and he gets hardly any effort. I don't see HEART. Where are our SKINS?????

Hess, I think your sentiments are shared by many on this very site and to some extent myself. But you have to consider that the NFL season is a very one long one -both physically and emotionally. I think this is a very reflective and thoughtful group of players. I think they've come to a place collectively where they are really emphasizing on what's going to count when December rolls around. I would be shocked if this team comes out flat on 9/11. I think we all would have liked to have seen them execute better, but now they have to focus and prepare. Focus and prepare. Focus and prepare. I think those two things alone will have has all over the Vikes on next Monday night.

Also consider we have a healthy CP who will chomping at the bit. Unless they just on't show up, I can't see the Vikes handling us on the opener.

[CanadianSkin]

There have been so many things said by the coaching staff and even by people on here that should make us have faith. We do have the best coaching staff in the NFL period. People made reference to Brunell having a smirk on his face when interviewed after the Pats loss. Fauria was interviewed and told everyone to calm down and note that this is preseason. Saunders and Gibbs have both said they are taking preseason as just a practice in game speed. They have only shown 2% of the play book. In practice behind closed doors we are firing on all cylinders and that is what matters. Why should we come out and pull a Spurrier and run the score up on teams in the preseason and show everything we are capable of, just to have teams watch film and figure out how to defend it. Look at the stats for the preseason of our receivers in 4 games:

Moss - 3 catches for 30 yards
Randle El - 3 catches for 49 yards
Lloyd - 3 catches for 42 yards
Cooley - 3 catches for 25

Do you think we really utilized these players? We had them in, they showed us a few things and then we went ot the back ups. Brunell was throwing to Espy and Buck... this is not who we are... But those averages of those four above look pretty good. Imagine what it will be like for a real game.

And least we forget, we saw one series out of Portis and then it was Betts. Heck Brunell threw less than 10 passes a game?

We have to have faith and realize we were watching a bunch of backups and Gibbs and company did not want to risk having our playmakers/stars get a season ending injury..

Have faith Sept 11 we play for real and we are going to look sweet.

HTTR