Why Brunell is Struggling

[Longtimefan]

After watching Brunell over the years it seems he has always trusted his legs more than his arm. Earlier in his career in Jacksonville it appeared as though he would look to run more frequently than throw, and kept that offense going with his legs. Now that he's older and running is not in his best interest, when it comes to throwing the ball in a timing offense I'm not sure he actually trust himself to make some of the throws he may have found easier to make when he was younger.

[That Guy]

saunders IS NOT the guy that ran the rams offense, PLEASE stop saying/implying the saunders is the guy responsible for that. martz focused on throwing to locations, not people, and martz didn't care about turnovers... gibbs REALLY does. and trent green is a better QB right now than brunell with a better OL, so the difference there is easy to explain.

warner, bledsoe, and brunell all suffer from looking at the rush instead of downfield at times.

[RedskinRat]

Here's a simple solution: Brunell's habit of dropping into the pocket, scanning the field and then patting the football has disrupted the timing of the offense

Buy him a puppy, sit his ass down on the bench and let him pat the puppy on the sideline. Start Campbell.

Oh, and DON'T let TAFKAS kick said puppy, cos he will, you know.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Here's a simple solution: Brunell's habit of dropping into the pocket, scanning the field and then patting the football has disrupted the timing of the offense

Buy him a puppy, sit his ass down on the bench and let him pat the puppy on the sideline. Start Campbell.

Oh, and DON'T let TAFKAS kick said puppy, cos he will, you know.

Daseal kicks the puppies. I just hold them a la Lucy Van Pelt

[Daseal]

Tafkas and I are a tag team. I have the leg of a healthy Shane Lechler, and Tafkas has the long snapping ability of Ethan Albright (BTW, Tafkas. Fucked up what madden did to you!)

[memphisskin]

The reasons why MB are struggling are of no real interest to me, I'm just glad that they have a plan to address it. I'll believe it when I see it, because like Mike Tyson used to say "Everyone has a plan until they get hit." And MB seems very reluctant to take hits these days, which is not a good fit because sometimes it looks like the offensive line is trying to get him taken out. Kinda like Parcells calling that qb run for Bledsoe from the 7 on MNF. No one can ever convince me that Parcells wasn't trying to get Bledsoe maimed on that play. And I like him for it.

Gibbs' emphasis on protecting the ball and not turning the ball over leads to MB checking down and throwing balls in the dirt. I don't think JG meant for Brunell not to ever challenge defenses, or to set a record for 3 and outs, but that's how MB has interpreted it this season. Good strategy, cuz MB's job is safe as long as he's not turning the ball over.

[offiss]

Excuses one after another for Brunell, now it's the old he's still learning a new offense, and big time todd collins is confirming that, the QB who hasen't seen the light of day in 7 years. Yes it's true it may take a QB a full year to learn the entire offense, but that is only getting familar with the plays, throwing to spots is something any real QB should know before he's out of high school, it's called anticipation, it also required the ability to read and understand not only what your own WR is going to do [ which shouldn't be a problem with a little practice ] but knowing how the defense is going to react, Brunell never had the QB smarts to understand either, his career has been a basic game plan if it's there throw it if not run until something opens up, which works to an extent, but rarely does it win championships. There is a reason Tom Coughlin wanted to trade Brunell when he was with the Jags, he didn't believe he could win with him at least not at a championship level, which lead to TC's departure.

Now here's is the most ridiculous problem, if in fact it takes a full year to really learn this offense, and Brunell is really a genious at QB and just needs to familarize himself with this new offense, Why on earth would we draft Campbell last year to sit on the bench for the next 3 to 4 years? Knowing that this season is basically a learning period for Brunell so that next season we can send a 37 year old QB out there and hope he wins it all, because if he doesn't we are then saddled with a 38 year old who will be playing out his farewell tour. Either you draft Campbell and commit to him and bring in a new O-coordinator, or you commit to Brunell and leave things as they were.

No matter how you look at it it doesn't make sense, so now we get this it will take a year for Brunell to learn HOW to play in this offense, then I guess it should take a year for Campbell to learn to play in this offense [and I don't mean a year on the sideline] if he can play at all. And if he can't we will be looking at the 2010 draft for a franchise QB to finally come in here and run Saunders offense.

Enough excuses already Brunell is horrible, and one giant mistake, Gibbs has to cut the cord with this guy and move on to the future in Campbell, if in fact he has a future?

[RedskinRat]

Shane 'Hannibal' Lechler?

[BDBohnzie]

Right, that was in response to the amount of dumpoffs in the 2000 season.

The next season, 2001, when Vermeil cried his way to Kansas City, he took Saunders and made him O Coordinator, and then got Trent Green...so 2001 was Green's first season in Saunders' offense. I should have been more precise, but got lazy and hit submit before reading it over for the 903rd time

[JWsleep]

Good stuff. I completely agree with the sentiment that if it takes this long to learn to offense, GET CAMPBELL IN THERE NOW! On that note, the comment that he's taking snaps is significant--Gibbs usually only lets starters take snaps... we can only dream.

Guess Gibbs didn't think it would take MB a year to learn the offense, becuase he's "super smart". Ugh.

[dmek25]

if it takes a few sacks in return for throwing the ball deep, then so be it.

[SmootSmack]

I think early next week the Redskins move Campbell up to #2. Then on Sunday Brunell gets the start, and after a series or two regardless of how he's doing Campbell comes in. That's my off the wall prediction and I'm sticking to it

[Pocket$ $traight]

I know why.

He was done when we traded for him and until he was hit in the knee by New York, he was having an out of body experience.

He is a nice guy but he shouldn't be starting for any NFL team.

[MTK]

Rivers sat for two full seasons before taking over in SD, so sitting isn't going to kill Campbell either.

I don't see why it's so hard to understand why the coaches may not consider Campbell to be ready. Coming out of Auburn he wasn't considered to be a guy ready to step in right away and it was generally understood that he was a bit green. Add in the fact that he's learning his 2nd offense in as many years and a complex one at that, I think it's reasonable to see why the staff doesn't want to go to him until the team is all but out of contention.

He will get his chance this year, but some people have been freaking out and wringing their hands over him not playing going back to last year.

Relax.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Rivers sat for two full seasons before taking over in SD, so sitting isn't going to kill Campbell either.

I don't see why it's so hard to understand why the coaches may not consider Campbell to be ready. Coming out of Auburn he wasn't considered to be a guy ready to step in right away and it was generally understood that he was a bit green. Add in the fact that he's learning his 2nd offense in as many years and a complex one at that, I think it's reasonable to see why the staff doesn't want to go to him until the team is all but out of contention.

He will get his chance this year, but some people have been freaking out and wringing their hands over him not playing going back to last year.

Relax.

I here you, and you could be a 1000% right about Campbell and his progress right now, that was my contention from the get go when we drafted him. But you can't ignore the fact that even if Campbell is not ready to run this offense neither is Brunell, Or Brunell is incapable of running this offense [or any other for that matter] but you have to keep in mind as well that the reason he sat was because Brees was playing at a pro bowl caliber level there was no need to insert a rookie, either way I think we should find out if Campbell is the goods or not, I believe Brunell has proven he is not, Campbell should at least be awarded the chance to fail.

I would rather go with an unproven player than a proven loser, at least you have a chance with the unknown ability of a player, unlike with Brunell who has proven he can't cut the mustard!

If we wait for Campbell to be ready to step in and win games off the get go he will probably never be ready, the man needs on the job training, he would learn more in one game at this point than a month in practice, you just can't simulate game conditions in practice. Especially if Rogers is covering recievers in practice, practice would be way to easy.