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Old 11-13-2006, 05:15 PM   #1
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Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..."

Unfortunately, I can't see us trading down. I'd love for us to trade down to get a 1st and 2nd.
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:22 PM   #2
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We will trade down to 15th, accumulate a second rounder and then trade the second rounder to move up to 13th for a runningback.
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:44 PM   #3
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Big C -- I agree, with a top 5 pick this year you can trade down and get very nice value, but Im not sold we'll have a top 5 pick this year yet. We wont have a good pick, but doubt we get top 5.

As far as replacing Dockery, this guy has had a realtively good season and has shown solid progression each year in the league. As fans we constantly complain about the FOs lack of patience and letting talent develop, Dockery is developing. Wanna toss an O-linemen under the bus, it's time for a new RT. Jon "Turnstyle" Jansen isn't cutting it anymore.

I still think we fix our defense up. A lot of it depends on what FAs (You know we're going after some) and picks we have. I'd like to see another corner myself. I think Rogers will be just fine, Corner is a tough position, especially in Williams defense, but Springs isnt getting any younger and I'd like to have a guy who knows the system is Springs goes down or retired in the next couple years (that said, Nate Clements will probably be a Washington Redskin, thus eliminating this need, from a 1st round pick standpoint). I think LB will be fine with Washington, Marshall, and McIntosh. D line could use some depth. O line could use some depth.

For the most part -- leave this team alone! Hold on to Vincent and Priolou (sp?) make minor changes where needed, but let these guys gel! No big changes. Work on depth instead of starters.
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Big C -- I agree, with a top 5 pick this year you can trade down and get very nice value, but Im not sold we'll have a top 5 pick this year yet. We wont have a good pick, but doubt we get top 5.

As far as replacing Dockery, this guy has had a realtively good season and has shown solid progression each year in the league. As fans we constantly complain about the FOs lack of patience and letting talent develop, Dockery is developing. Wanna toss an O-linemen under the bus, it's time for a new RT. Jon "Turnstyle" Jansen isn't cutting it anymore.

I still think we fix our defense up. A lot of it depends on what FAs (You know we're going after some) and picks we have. I'd like to see another corner myself. I think Rogers will be just fine, Corner is a tough position, especially in Williams defense, but Springs isnt getting any younger and I'd like to have a guy who knows the system is Springs goes down or retired in the next couple years (that said, Nate Clements will probably be a Washington Redskin, thus eliminating this need, from a 1st round pick standpoint). I think LB will be fine with Washington, Marshall, and McIntosh. D line could use some depth. O line could use some depth.

For the most part -- leave this team alone! Hold on to Vincent and Priolou (sp?) make minor changes where needed, but let these guys gel! No big changes. Work on depth instead of starters.
Spot on. Trade down, and don't F with the young players, just because there is some old FA who played better last year -- I hate that.

As for the team, I'd focus on a single problem at a time. Every year we try to fix all the problems, all at once -- and then we're a lock for the superbowl ... oh brother, it just doesn't work like that.

I'd start a three year plan. The goal of the plan would be to reach the playoffs in three years, and the superbowl in five. I'd spend the first year improving defense, the second year I'd improve rushing offense, and the third year I'd improve passing offense. Hopefully, by the third year, the team is top 10 offensively and defensively.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:55 PM   #5
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yeah what he said shit can holdman!
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:57 PM   #6
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yeah i dont think we will get a top 5 pick. somewhere in the top ten is more likely if we dont go on a little win streak, 8-10 is probably our range right now. still will be good value there, brohm, teddy gin, etc. where good value can be had for teams wanting these players
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yeah i dont think we will get a top 5 pick. somewhere in the top ten is more likely if we dont go on a little win streak, 8-10 is probably our range right now. still will be good value there, brohm, teddy gin, etc. where good value can be had for teams wanting these players
If they pick Ted Gin I am boycotting Fed-Ex.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:44 PM   #8
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If they pick Ted Gin I am boycotting Fed-Ex.
I hear that.

I wouldn't actually do it, but that might be the worst pick...ever.
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:19 PM   #9
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As far as how likely it is the Skins get the first pick....

While there are a number of 3-6 teams, the only teams with a worse record right now:

TEN (2-7)
OAK (2-7)
DET (2-7)
TB (2-6)
ARI (1-8)

In essence, the Skins are only 2 games out of dead last.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:38 PM   #10
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If they're at the top of the first round they need to go for a Defensive linemen. DE or DT, I don't care. I'm sick of mediocre play from the front four. I also think that having a dominant guy on the line next to Carter would make him much better. He's not a top flite pass rusher. However, he could be a 10 sack guy if we got one across from him. That's just my opinion.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:08 AM   #11
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Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..."

Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina
Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson

in that order. I'd like to think that Washington won't pick in the first 10 this year, but things aren't looking good.
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:50 AM   #12
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brohm might not come out till next year... instead of competing with quinn and troy smith, he'll only have to worry about henne.

the only WR even worth considering (for us) would be calvin johnson because he' SUCH a freak athlete with great work ethic etc... tactically it'd be pretty stupid, but the talent would make it pretty tempting.

I'm not super impressed with the CBs this year, though there are a couple good ones (and yeah, i really like josh wilson, but he's not even projected in the first round right now, much less the top five-ten picks. leon hall is the only CB in that range right now.). Clements would easily beat out the impact we'd get from any CB we could draft, though it'd come at a steep price.

for us, i think our best move would be adam gaines (DE). he's a fairly safe pick, a top five talent, and he'd address a huge need (and add youth to an old starting DL). If you could trade down and still come away with moses (DE), posluszny (LB), or okoye (DT) that wouldn't be terrible, especially if you could end up with a guy like ben grubbs (OG) or a decent CB/DE.

dockery isn't going to get a big contract, so he should be back. last year a late 2nd rounder (like what we had) could have gotten us a day one starter an upgrade there, but we went for a LB that holdman's been able to keep on the bench for a full 10 games instead :/. cheap FA OGs aren't hard to find though.

and rogers is NOT the best tackling CB in the league. champ bailey is better, spring is better, etc etc. he IS a great tackling CB, but there are better tacklers and much much better cover guys.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:06 PM   #13
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Re: "with the first pick in the 2007 draft, the redskins select..."

we need to make one of those trades like we did with saints when they got ricky williams...think we got like five picks including a future 1st rounder
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:46 PM   #14
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pitcock and okoye are better than atkins, so is gaines (DE)... all their DT ranking seems screwy .
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:53 PM   #15
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NFLDraftScout top 50, not including underclassmen (their listed in 2008 and 2009 classes and not integrated). this list will change a lot after combines etc, and is NOT a mock draft, just a talent rating.

1 Quinn, Brady (QB), Notre Dame 1 6-4 228 4.70
2 Thomas, Joe (OT), Wisconsin 1 6-7 310 5.06
3 Adams, Gaines (DE), Clemson 1 6-5 260 4.72
4 Hall, Leon (CB), Michigan 1 5-11 195 4.48
5 Pitcock, Quinn (DT), Ohio State 1 6-3 298 4.95
6 Brown, Levi (OT), Penn State 1 6-4 325 5.28
7 Landry, LaRon (FS), LSU 1 6-2 205 4.48
8 Posluszny, Paul (OLB), Penn State 1 6-2 230 4.58
9 Moses, Quentin (DE), Georgia 1 6-5 252 4.75
10 Blalock, Justin (OT), Texas 1 6-4 330 5.25
11 Willis, Patrick (ILB), Mississippi 1 6-2 232 4.60
12 Samardzija, Jeff (WR), Notre Dame 1 6-5 216 4.50
13 Woodley, LaMarr (DE), Michigan 1 6-1 270 4.68
14 Okoye, Amobi (DT), Louisville 1 6-2 315 5.03
15 Zbikowski, Tom (SS), Notre Dame 1 5-11 214 4.48
16 McCauley, Marcus (CB), Fresno State 1 6-1 198 4.43
17 Carriker, Adam (DE), Nebraska 1 6-6 286 4.86
18 Griffin, Michael (SS), Texas 1 6-1 205 4.48
19 Leonard, Brian (FB), Rutgers 1-2 6-1 238 4.56
20 Grubbs, Ben (OG), Auburn 1-2 6-3 315 5.18
21 Stanton, Drew (QB), Michigan State 1-2 6-3 230 4.79
22 Staley, Joe (OT), Central Michigan 1-2 6-6 305 4.75
23 Irons, Kenny (RB), Auburn 1-2 5-11 202 4.48
24 Smith, Troy (QB), Ohio State 1-2 6-1 212 4.60
25 Hughes, Daymeion (CB), California 1-2 6-0 188 4.54
26 Everett, Earl (OLB), Florida 1-2 6-2 232 4.56
27 Harris, Ryan (OT), Notre Dame 1-2 6-5 295 5.12
28 Crowder, Tim (DE), Texas 1-2 6-3 270 4.76
29 Tyler, Tank (DT), North Carolina State 1-2 6-2 310 5.20
30 Allison, Aundrae (WR), East Carolina 2 6-0 190 4.42
31 Abiamiri, Victor (DE), Notre Dame 2 6-4 264 4.75
32 Brown, Tarell (CB), Texas 2 5-11 192 4.47
33 Beekman, Josh (OG), Boston College 2 6-2 318 5.39
34 Higgins, Johnnie Lee (WR), Texas-El Paso 2 6-0 184 4.41
35 Bowe, Dwayne (WR), LSU 2 6-2 220 4.52
36 Hunt, Tony (RB), Penn State 2 6-0 225 4.54
37 Rouse, Aaron (SS), Virginia Tech 2 6-4 225 4.42
38 Harrell, Justin (DT), Tennessee 2 6-4 305 5.09
39 Bennett, Fred (CB), South Carolina 2 6-2 190 4.45
40 Chandler, Scott (TE), Iowa 2 6-7 256 4.78
41 Spencer, Anthony (DE), Purdue 2 6-3 262 4.67
42 Blades, H.B. (ILB), Pittsburgh 2 5-11 240 4.69
43 Jackson, Tanard (CB), Syracuse 2 6-0 192 4.54
44 Shaw, Tim (OLB), Penn State 2 6-1 235 4.65
45 Thomas, Marcus (DT), Florida 2-3 6-3 290 4.96
46 Ross, Aaron (CB), Texas 2 6-0 192 4.46
47 Sears, Arron (OT), Tennessee 2 6-4 338 5.32
48 Caldwell, Andre (WR), Florida 2-3 6-1 198 4.43
49 Clowney, David (WR), Virginia Tech 2-3 6-1 180 4.32
50 Bush, Michael (RB), Louisville 2-3 6-2 248 4.62
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