Jason Campbell vs. Vick

marius · 11-30-2006, 04:48 AM

Hi Pudge, I think someone else may have asked this already but what do Falcons fans think of the Duckett trade?

dmek25 · 11-30-2006, 06:46 AM

welcome, and while i know the falcons are a strong running team, your defense hasn't played anywhere near a playoff teams defense. with Abraham and malloy, i thought you guys would be alot better. and yes, i know Abraham has been hurt. but the falcons are still underachieving.ummm, that sounds alot like the skins

irish · 11-30-2006, 07:03 AM

I think the skins will win this week. If they just contain Vick a little then there's nothing else Atlanta can do on offense. It will be tough but it can be done.

AZs for Vick vs Campbell, I'll take JC every time. He's much more of a pro style QB that has the potential to get better. Vick is as good as he will ever get (which is not that good) and he's only getting older.

#56fanatic · 11-30-2006, 08:35 AM

"Campbell is a breath of fresh air here, but the gameplan still seems as conservative as when Brunell was behind center. i'm sure its because they don't want Campbell making mistakes, but turning him into another Brunell isn't the answer. 3 games in is still too little to let him loose, so i expect the same conservative gameplan that needs the defense to show up for us to win."

I dont see any thing wrong with the way Campbell is playing. Balls are getting delivered to the right receivers, he ins't throwing balls away after looking at one receiver. He is going through his reads better than Brunell was. Gibbs said that the Randel El TD was like his 4th read. He is stepping up in the pocket better than Brunell. Turning him into another Brunell,,, I think NOT!! Campbell is throwing the ball down the field, attempting to complete long balls, he is throwing over the middle. throwing for more than 10 and 15 yards. I think as time goes on, he will open up a little more of the passing game, but they just aren't going to do that in the kids first couple of games.

dmek25 · 12-01-2006, 06:06 AM

reading NFL defenses separates good qbacks in this league from great ones. its all about experience

MTK · 12-01-2006, 10:55 AM

Hey Pudge, what's your take on Duckett?

What are his strengths? Weaknesses? Do you think he could be a #1 back in this league?

The Zimmermans · 12-01-2006, 11:18 AM

Vick is only good in the right offense

skinsfan69 · 12-01-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pudge

Falcon fan here that will be at the game this week. Just wondering how has Campbell looked in his 2 starts, since I haven't had a chance to see him. From the stat lines he has looked pretty good, but I also noticed that the Redskins really haven't had any big completions in the past 2 weeks from their WRs. Guys are averaging under 10 yards per pass.

I'd like to say I think the Falcons can win this one, but I'm not so confident. While Campbell seemingly has brought fresh air to the Redskins offense, that is exactly what the Falcons are needing, and it doesn't look like it's going to come from Vick.

I just don't think Vick is ever going to be a consistent NFL QB. However his WR's are not helping his cause. I personally think the offense would run much smoother if they put in Schaub. Campbell has looked like a QB starting his 2nd NFL game. Some good and some bad. He looks a little rusty simply becasue he has not played a full game since college. But most importantly you can see flashes of his calm pocket presence, and pocket passing skills. These are qualities that I have not seen in Vick on a consistent basis and he's in his 5th or 6th year?

dmek25 · 12-01-2006, 01:40 PM

wow!

hesscl34 · 12-01-2006, 03:19 PM

Bullshit you are joking when you pull the female crap. You use those statements to put me down (knowing I’m female) and insult me because you can't come up with a more intelligent response. As for getting WAY too emotional when the bickering ensues, I'm NOT the only one dear. And in that way, we men and women are alike on the Warpath!

hooskins · 12-01-2006, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Bullshit you are joking when you pull the female crap. You use those statements to put me down (knowing I’m female) and insult me because you can't come up with a more intelligent response. As for getting WAY too emotional when the bickering ensues, I'm NOT the only one dear. And in that way, we men and women are alike on the Warpath!

Why are you boiling it down to men and women, I hate people who can't take a joke on this site regardless if they are guys or girls. You just have this image in your mind that every guy on this site is out there to get you, when in reality they are not.

It is like you think you deserve special treatment bc you are female, and we(members of this forum) can't counter your points, because you get really upset and flip out. Very similar to SBF, I love the dude to death, but he takes things way too seriously.

Either way I know I am not changing your mind, so it doesn't matter. I would continue to prove my point, but it will only upset you more and the Mods. So I am done.

hesscl34 · 12-01-2006, 03:20 PM

oh, and as for me taking it personal - using sexist statements is NO different from you using a racial slur. If I were black and you used a racial slur while arguing with me and I got all upset then it would be understood. It's no different because I'm a woman. THAT is the reality.

hesscl34 · 12-01-2006, 03:31 PM

Dude, go back to school. I am NOT asking for special treatment and never have. Up until this year none of you ever knew I was a woman, and I never got any back handed female insult until you did find out!! Stop throwing sexists statements around and we won't have these arguments.

hooskins · 12-01-2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Dude, go back to school. I am NOT asking for special treatment and never have. Up until this year none of you ever knew I was a woman, and I never got any back handed female insult until you did find out!! Stop throwing sexists statements around and we won't have these arguments.

"Dude go back to school"-See right there you are doing what you claim everyone is doing to you. You are getting really emotional and countering with an arguement that does not even make sense. You are proving my points for me.

Stop sweating that you are a woman, just stop doing it lol. Just don't mention it, and don't flip out if someone else does. I promise everything that you "think" is sexist will all go away, plus it will be easier on the mind if you do that.

The Zimmermans · 12-01-2006, 03:32 PM

Go create your own sexism thread, let's talk football

11-30-2006, 06:46 AM	#2
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick welcome, and while i know the falcons are a strong running team, your defense hasn't played anywhere near a playoff teams defense. with Abraham and malloy, i thought you guys would be alot better. and yes, i know Abraham has been hurt. but the falcons are still underachieving.ummm, that sounds alot like the skins __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-30-2006, 07:03 AM	#3
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick I think the skins will win this week. If they just contain Vick a little then there's nothing else Atlanta can do on offense. It will be tough but it can be done. AZs for Vick vs Campbell, I'll take JC every time. He's much more of a pro style QB that has the potential to get better. Vick is as good as he will ever get (which is not that good) and he's only getting older.

11-30-2006, 08:35 AM	#4
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick "Campbell is a breath of fresh air here, but the gameplan still seems as conservative as when Brunell was behind center. i'm sure its because they don't want Campbell making mistakes, but turning him into another Brunell isn't the answer. 3 games in is still too little to let him loose, so i expect the same conservative gameplan that needs the defense to show up for us to win." I dont see any thing wrong with the way Campbell is playing. Balls are getting delivered to the right receivers, he ins't throwing balls away after looking at one receiver. He is going through his reads better than Brunell was. Gibbs said that the Randel El TD was like his 4th read. He is stepping up in the pocket better than Brunell. Turning him into another Brunell,,, I think NOT!! Campbell is throwing the ball down the field, attempting to complete long balls, he is throwing over the middle. throwing for more than 10 and 15 yards. I think as time goes on, he will open up a little more of the passing game, but they just aren't going to do that in the kids first couple of games.

12-01-2006, 10:55 AM	#6
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Hey Pudge, what's your take on Duckett? What are his strengths? Weaknesses? Do you think he could be a #1 back in this league? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-01-2006, 11:18 AM	#7
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Vick is only good in the right offense __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-30-2006, 04:48 AM	#1
marius Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 136	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Hi Pudge, I think someone else may have asked this already but what do Falcons fans think of the Duckett trade?

12-01-2006, 06:06 AM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick reading NFL defenses separates good qbacks in this league from great ones. its all about experience __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-01-2006, 01:40 PM	#9
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick wow! __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

12-01-2006, 03:19 PM	#10
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Bullshit you are joking when you pull the female crap. You use those statements to put me down (knowing I’m female) and insult me because you can't come up with a more intelligent response. As for getting WAY too emotional when the bickering ensues, I'm NOT the only one dear. And in that way, we men and women are alike on the Warpath!

12-01-2006, 03:20 PM	#12
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick oh, and as for me taking it personal - using sexist statements is NO different from you using a racial slur. If I were black and you used a racial slur while arguing with me and I got all upset then it would be understood. It's no different because I'm a woman. THAT is the reality.

12-01-2006, 03:31 PM	#13
hesscl34 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 2,782	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Dude, go back to school. I am NOT asking for special treatment and never have. Up until this year none of you ever knew I was a woman, and I never got any back handed female insult until you did find out!! Stop throwing sexists statements around and we won't have these arguments.

12-01-2006, 03:32 PM	#15
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Jason Campbell vs. Vick Go create your own sexism thread, let's talk football __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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