Death, Taxes, and Samuels in the Pro Bowl

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Haha. Good argument.

From NFL.com

-Passing-
Romo: 183 of 276 for 2440 yards and 16 TDs with 10 INTs (98.4)
Vick: 187 of 354 for 2284 yards and 19 TDs with 11 INTs (77.9)

-Rushing-
Romo: 44 yards on 27 carries with no TDs
Vick: 990 yards on 116 carries with 2 TDs

I'd argue that both have been impact players for their teams, and have been major contributors to winning. However, Vick has started all 14 games, and Romo has only started in 8.

Judging by passing numbers alone, I'd probably send Romo. But, when you consider that Vick will have over 1000 yards rushing, it's a no-brainer. How can you discount the rushing yards?

What about Vick's pathetic 52.8 completion percentage? He has just 2284 passing yards (163 per game), and then there's that very mediocre QB rating. He has the rushing yards, but that only goes to prove how one dimensional he is as a QB. He didn't deserve to get in last year and he certainly doesn't deserve it this year. Romo has more yards passing in 6 less starts and is only 3 TDs behind him!

Believe me I'm not a huge fan of Romo getting in based on just 8 starts, but it just goes to show how weak the NFC is regarding QBs this year. If McNabb hadn't gone down he would have been a lock.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What about Vick's pathetic 52.8 completion percentage? He has just 2284 passing yards (163 per game), and then there's that very mediocre QB rating. He has the rushing yards, but that only goes to prove how one dimensional he is as a QB. He didn't deserve to get in last year and he certainly doesn't deserve it this year. Romo has more yards passing in 6 less starts and is only 3 TDs behind him!

Believe me I'm not a huge fan of Romo getting in based on just 8 starts, but it just goes to show how weak the NFC is regarding QBs this year. If McNabb hadn't gone down he would have been a lock.

You're right. There'd be no argument if McNabb were healthy.

As for Vick's completion percentage, his receivers drop more passes than any other team. Can you blame Vick? I think if Vick had Owens and Glenn his passing numbers would be better.

The one dimension argument doesn't work very well, if you consider that Romo is also one dimensional -- just in the opposite manner.

Yeah, Vick didn't deserve to go last year, and Romo doesn't deserve to go this year. Why make the same mistake twice?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Just a quick look at the stats on ESPN and instantly you can find like 4-5 QBs that are far more deserving than Romo.

[12thMan]

Ooop...wrong thread.

Please delete.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I just don't think half a season justifies a pro bowl selection, unless the stats are through the roof -- which Romo's aren't. Not to mention, Vick's passing stats would be better if his receivers could catch.

However, the big thing that stand out in my mind is: Vick will be the first QB to rush for over 1000 yards in a season, and he won't even make the pro bowl (with above average passing numbers). :confused:

[SmootSmack]

Did Tony Romo beat the Saints? No. Did Jason Campbell beat the Saints? Yes.

We wuz robbed!!!!

Seriously though, is there a rule that says 3 QBs have to be picked? Couldn't they have just taken Brees and Bulger and used that 3rd QB position on another position instead? Because there aren't really three deserving NFC QBs this year

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I just don't think half a season justifies a pro bowl selection, unless the stats are through the roof -- which Romo's aren't.

His stats are through the roof though, project them out to a full season he would have over 4000 yards and over 30 TDs.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

His stats are through the roof though, project them out to a full season he would have over 4000 yards and over 30 TDs.

He also has the highest passer rating in the NFC at the moment.

[redsk1]

I think Samuels deserves it. He' s had a good year. Most of us watch every single game and play. We're going to notice if he gets beat occasionally. Everybody gets beat occasionally. We should be grateful to have him.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Sure, but that's what you HAVE to do though. You have to see stats throughout a full season. The rest of NFL QBs have to go through their respective ups and downs throughout the season, why should he be any different? If you looked at Rex Grossman's projected stats throughout the first four or five games, it would look pretty similar.

[MTK]

The thing is Romo's one dimension is much more desirable and valuable than Vick's one dimension. When was the last scrambling QB to win the big one?

[JDALY27]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The thing is Romo's one dimension is much more desirable and valuable than Vick's one dimension. When was the last scrambling QB to win the big one?

Romo is a Pro Bowler this year. Vick stinks bad.

Romo turned Dallas around and was more of a impact player in fewer games. I agree with you on this arguement.

[brent]

If Romo is a Pro Bowler, than Betts should be starting. Project Betts numbers out across an entire season, he'd probably break every record in the book.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by brent

If Romo is a Pro Bowler, than Betts should be starting. Project Betts numbers out across an entire season, he'd probably break every record in the book.

Romo plays for a probable division winner and definite playoff team.

He wouldn't break the touchdown record... (which is still being made)

[LINEBACKER]

How come the NFC roster has 2 Strong Safeties (Adrian Wilson & Roy Williams) and only one Free Safety (Brian Dawkins). And the AFC roster has it versa vice ... 2 FS (Ed Reed & Jon Lynch) and 1 SS (Troy Polamalu)

It Dont make a no sense to me