ESPN: Archuleta: 'I don't like getting lied to'

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

What I don't get is the whole "lied to" crap. Lied to about what? Did the Redskins honestly say, "You'll never have to play coverage?" When Prioleau got hurt it was his job to step in. What were Gibbs and Williams supposed to do..."Adam...get in there, oh wait, nevermind, I forgot we agreed to never put you in coverage..." What an idiot...

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

What I don't get is the whole "lied to" crap. Lied to about what? Did the Redskins honestly say, "You'll never have to play coverage?" When Prioleau got hurt it was his job to step in. What were Gibbs and Williams supposed to do..."Adam...get in there, oh wait, nevermind, I forgot we agreed to never put you in coverage..." What an idiot...

No, what he was saying was no one really sat him down and told him why he wasn't playing. Meantime, the coaches are doing pressers saying how impressed they are with 'Adam'.

No, no one came right out and told a lie to Arch, but in so many words he felt he was being deceived.

[djnemo65]

How bitter can you be when you are getting paid about 10 million dollars for one season of work? I don't understand what his grounds for complaint are. Obviously if the team thought that he gave them a better chance to win he would be on the field. They don't, so he's not. He'll get to walk away from this one season with more money than your average safety makes in a career. If his complaint is that he's a better player than he is being given credit for, that would be on thing and we could debate that, but it sounds like he is more pissed that the team won't be honest with him about how much he sucks! I mean, is he seriously angry that Williams and Gibbs don't get up there and say, Adam is no good, he can't cover, and we made a huge mistake on him?! It seems like they are trying to do the diplomatic thing in not throwing him under the bus, thus protecting his value as a free agent this season. Look at a guy like TJ Duckett, who has gotten a much rawer deal in my opinion, if you want a model of how to act under difficult circumstances.

[riggoraider]

I was almost feeling sorry for AA until he came up with this one. I do not think that he was lied to at all and the honest assessment that he wanted came when they sat that azz on the bench for the remainder of the season.

Did he really want staff to say that he was playing sorry as hell to reporters when asked why he was sat down?...I think not

AA should've just sat down, accepted that he had a bad year and worked hard to improve his play in the offseason

the article was a really classless move on his part

[saden1]

I think you guys missed the point of his complaint which was that nobody in the coaching staff sat down with him (him, not reporters) and told him why he is on the bench and what he can do to improve game. It's a valid complaint though it is quite clear to everyone watching the Skins why he is on the bench. Of course that doesn't mean the coaching can just go about their business and not have a sit down with him. It's common courtesy to tell someone why they were demoted and how can get out of the dog house.

[riggoraider]

Originally Posted by saden1

I think you guys missed the point of his complaint which was that nobody in the coaching staff sat down with him (him, not reporters) and told him why he is on the bench and what he can do to improve game. It's a valid complaint though it is quite clear to everyone watching the Skins why he is on the bench. Of course that doesn't mean the coaching can just go about their business and not have a sit down with him. It's common courtesy to tell someone why they were demoted and how can get out of the dog house.

I see where you are coming from but I can not see any professional, college nor high school team that goes over game films every Tuesday's or Wednesday's not pointing out to players what they did wrong if they had concerns. I really think that that was a bunch of hogwash...that is what these sessions are for

[Jamaican'Skin]

I can understand that he believed that he was being lied to. Him remaining in the doghouse while coaches constantly told him he was doing well would confuse him, but I cannot believe that he doesn't know why he's in the doghouse. He's had the same bum wrap since St. Louie, there's no way he can't know that he's terrible in coverage

[gibbsisgod]

Since when was it the coaching staffs responsibility to go to Arch and tell him what he is doing wrong? This is something he should take upon himself to approach the coaches and ask. I'm not saying that he has not done this but from his statement it seems like he is waiting for them to come to him.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Since when was it the coaching staffs responsibility to go to Arch and tell him what he is doing wrong? This is something he should take upon himself to approach the coaches and ask. I'm not saying that he has not done this but from his statement it seems like he is waiting for them to come to him.

You can't be serious. By definition, a coach is supposed to instruct thier players, specifically as to correcting and improving their performance.

In relation to business, the standard business model uses a performance appraisal feedback model to ensure that this issue cannot happen. This would include the coaches defining a list of objectives for the player to meet, and for the coaches to define the players role in the organization. If this were done in this case, it would be much easier for a GM to look at a situation and say if the coach or player is at fault and make corrections in the future.

It is easy to look at AA, the money he was payed, and the plays he left on the field, but I sure would like to know what he was really told he would be doing when the Skins were trying to get him to play here instead of Chicago (who must have wanted him for some reason???). Again, can someone tell me why a perennial top 5 (Bears) defense wanted him if everyone knew he was so bad?

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

You can't be serious. By definition, a coach is supposed to instruct thier players, specifically as to correcting and improving their performance.

I'm dead serious! I'm not talking about coaches putting in the gameplan with players and making sure they know the plays. I'm also not talking about coaches putting players through drills that help with fundementals(sp?). I'm talking about players staying after practice and working on their own to get better, i.e: WR catching balls from coaches or O-lineman working with coaches on footwork. These are the things the player needs to take upon himself. Its not the coaches job to go to AA and ask him to say after pratcice to work on technique.

I dont know if he has done these things or not to show the coaching staff he cares about his job. but,If he had done these things, I'm convinced that he would be on the field more.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Since when was it the coaching staffs responsibility to go to Arch and tell him what he is doing wrong?

Really? How is NOT the coaches responsibility? They are COACHES, they need to (gasp) COACH! It is 100% the responsibility to tell Arch exactly what he is doing wrong, if not, then they are not coaches, they are spectators.
I actually had a feeling this was taking place because the same mistakes were being made over and over. Everyone needs coaching...everyone!

I'm not saying he doesn't suck in our system, he did...but he deserves to be spoken with.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Really? How is NOT the coaches responsibility? They are COACHES, they need to (gasp) COACH! It is 100% the responsibility to tell Arch exactly what he is doing wrong, if not, then they are not coaches, they are spectators.
I actually had a feeling this was taking place because the same mistakes were being made over and over. Everyone needs coaching...everyone!

I'm not saying he doesn't suck in our system, he did...but he deserves to be spoken with.

I answered that a couple of post after that one so before you call me out.......keep reading.

[#56fanatic]

This AA thing reminds me a lot of other players, as to what happens to them when they fall out of favor with the coaching staff. There have been plenty of players that all say the same things. They dont talk to them, no reason for not playing, not telling them how to improve. There is a recurring theme with this defensive staff. Aside from AA not playing worth a damn, as a professional he deserves reasoning for benching, for not playing at all. In the washington post and times both have articles saying that he found out in a walk through that prealoue (however that is spelled) was starting. the walk through before the game!! that is crazy. this defensive staff, starting with GW has to get off their high horse and come back to reality. it started with smoot, clark, pierce, arrington, and now AA. GW thinks its his system, that players dont matter, well we all see what happens when you dont have the skill players in important positions. Its about players too.

[Hog1]

Players come and go all the time. It's the nature of FA. players say things all the time as well. it does not mean it's true, or in this case, that he was kept out of the loop or anything else for that matter. When GW had a band of heartbreakers and lifetakers (sorry CE) last season, nobody on the squad seemed pissed off, and everybody loved GW. So........AA say he bad. Did GW change???? Not likely. IMO, I believe GW is an ego maniac, but he makes it work, or at least can. Q. what is the difference last to this year? A. AA has his feelings hurt....................move on. It was a mistake to bring him here, and his ego is bruised, and looking for someone to blame. my ego would be a bit spanked as well

[vaoutlaws2006]

AA has actually suprised me on this. I expected him to start crying before now. he may have been overpaid but that only leads to one conclusion...who decided to pay this scrub this much money? who evaluated his play and decided he was worth all the money we gave him. Our problems go way deeper than just not having the right players. I dont think we have the right folks doing the talent evaluations. Until that is corrected you will continue to the skins make awful decisions regarding drafting players, signing free agents and evaluating talent. The focus this offseason should be to hire a general manager before anything else.