Tom "Iceman" Brady

JWsleep · 01-14-2007, 08:38 PM

But how about that "Marty Ball" moment--when SD picked the ball off and then fumbled it back to NE. Something like that always happens to Marty in the playoffs!

Brady does it when it counts. He is one cool customer and takes some big hits and keeps slinging. Don't know if he's better than Marino or Montana--that's one of those endless debates--but he's right up there, no doubt. Peyton will be in his shadow unless he wins the big one, IMO.

htownskinfan · 01-14-2007, 08:41 PM

I hate that 4th qaurter come from behind stat,if you were doing good you wouldnt have to come from behind,not denying those are great qbs that hold those records,I just dont like that stat

Hail2theskins · 01-14-2007, 08:47 PM

when brady does it for 16 years let me know, until then im not saying he is on the same level. i will say again, his team is coached extremely well hence why they win football games. brady is a very good qb but he is not the best.

wilsowilso · 01-14-2007, 08:48 PM

Remember this is only Brady's sixth season as a starter. He might not be halfway through his career yet.

Hail2theskins · 01-14-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Remember this is only Brady's sixth season as a starter. He might not be halfway through his career yet.

my point exactly, its a little premature to call him the greatest ever, dont ya think? what happens if bellicheck leaves or something and they start losing games and brady turns out to be a flop? then what?

wilsowilso · 01-14-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2theskins

my point exactly, its a little premature to call him the greatest ever, dont ya think? what happens if bellicheck leaves or something and they start losing games and brady turns out to be a flop? then what?

Belichik runs the Defense. He has little to do with Tom Brady playing QB.

wolfeskins · 01-14-2007, 08:55 PM

i got a tom brady rookie card.

Hail2theskins · 01-14-2007, 08:59 PM

hes the teams head coach, id say thats got some influence on how brady plays... but i mean if all a coach is good for is play calling then why are there even coaches on the field, coaches should just be in the booth. thats like saying gibbs doesnt have an influence over anything cuz i mean he doesnt run the offense or defense.

wolfeskins · 01-14-2007, 09:09 PM

a lot of people choose to dislike tom brady and the pats for the simple fact that they're winners. fact is the pats are a very good team and tom brady is argueably the best qb in the league today. he could go down as one of the best qbs to ever play in the nfl and like someone said earlier, if he retired after this season he would be a first ballot hall of famer.

ncskinsfanec · 01-14-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

a lot of people choose to dislike tom brady and the pats for the simple fact that they're winners. fact is the pats are a very good team and tom brady is argueably the best qb in the league today. he could go down as one of the best qbs to ever play in the nfl and like someone said earlier, if he retired after this season he would be a first ballot hall of famer.

Good post. Even if you don't like him, Brady is one heck of a QB. I'll put him right on par with Marino, Elway, and Montana, all he does is win, and he's got three Super Bowl rings, and possibly a fourth on the way, to prove it. I hope the Colts win Sunday, but it's going to be awfully tough.

SkinEmAll · 01-14-2007, 09:33 PM

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Good post. Even if you don't like him, Brady is one heck of a QB. I'll put him right on par with Marino, Elway, and Montana, all he does is win, and he's got three Super Bowl rings, and possibly a fourth on the way, to prove it. I hope the Colts win Sunday, but it's going to be awfully tough.

its not not going to be tuff for the colts to win, but they may make it easy for the pats to win, i hope not. brady is an above avg qb no doubt, but to mention him with the greats of our time already is a bit much. Im really sick of the extra sloppy nut kissing on brady. Is he the ONLY player on that team???? NO. Is he the ONLY reason they win games??? NO. QBs historicaly get too much credit for teams success, but this is over the top.

wolfeskins · 01-14-2007, 09:47 PM

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its not not going to be tuff for the colts to win, but they may make it easy for the pats to win, i hope not. brady is an above avg qb no doubt, but to mention him with the greats of our time already is a bit much. Im really sick of the extra sloppy nut kissing on brady. Is he the ONLY player on that team???? NO. Is he the ONLY reason they win games??? NO. QBs historicaly get too much credit for teams success, but this is over the top.

uuhhhh, why are "the greats" considered great ? because of their preformance during their careers. tom brady's preformance, during his current career, puts him right there with "the greats"

ncskinsfanec · 01-14-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

its not not going to be tuff for the colts to win, but they may make it easy for the pats to win, i hope not. brady is an above avg qb no doubt, but to mention him with the greats of our time already is a bit much. Im really sick of the extra sloppy nut kissing on brady. Is he the ONLY player on that team???? NO. Is he the ONLY reason they win games??? NO. QBs historicaly get too much credit for teams success, but this is over the top.

It may be hard to deny it, but he is a great QB. Do I like Brady or the Pats? Not at all, I wanted the Chargers to beat their brains in today! But there's no denying what he's accomplished, and those drives he's led New England on to win playoff games and Superbowls over the years has been nothing short of remarkable. I don't like it anymore than you do pal, but Brady's reaching all time great territory right before our eyes. It's like watching Tiger Woods in golf, and I despise him to!

onlydarksets · 01-15-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

a lot of people choose to dislike tom brady and the pats for the simple fact that they're winners. fact is the pats are a very good team and tom brady is argueably the best qb in the league today. he could go down as one of the best qbs to ever play in the nfl and like someone said earlier, if he retired after this season he would be a first ballot hall of famer.

I dislike them because I lived in Boston for 4 years (way before the Pats were good). Massholes suck.

skinsfan69 · 01-14-2007, 09:21 PM

I look at the Pat organization and then I look at the Skins and it's like night and day.

01-14-2007, 08:38 PM	#1
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 57 Posts: 4,719	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady But how about that "Marty Ball" moment--when SD picked the ball off and then fumbled it back to NE. Something like that always happens to Marty in the playoffs! Brady does it when it counts. He is one cool customer and takes some big hits and keeps slinging. Don't know if he's better than Marino or Montana--that's one of those endless debates--but he's right up there, no doubt. Peyton will be in his shadow unless he wins the big one, IMO. __________________ Hail from Houston!

01-14-2007, 08:41 PM	#2
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 64 Posts: 4,935	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady I hate that 4th qaurter come from behind stat,if you were doing good you wouldnt have to come from behind,not denying those are great qbs that hold those records,I just dont like that stat __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

01-14-2007, 08:47 PM	#3
Hail2theskins Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herndon, VA Age: 40 Posts: 488	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady when brady does it for 16 years let me know, until then im not saying he is on the same level. i will say again, his team is coached extremely well hence why they win football games. brady is a very good qb but he is not the best. __________________ HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!! LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!

01-14-2007, 08:48 PM	#4
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady Remember this is only Brady's sixth season as a starter. He might not be halfway through his career yet.

01-14-2007, 08:55 PM	#7
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady i got a tom brady rookie card. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

01-14-2007, 08:59 PM	#8
Hail2theskins Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Herndon, VA Age: 40 Posts: 488	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady hes the teams head coach, id say thats got some influence on how brady plays... but i mean if all a coach is good for is play calling then why are there even coaches on the field, coaches should just be in the booth. thats like saying gibbs doesnt have an influence over anything cuz i mean he doesnt run the offense or defense. __________________ HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!! LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!!!

01-14-2007, 09:09 PM	#9
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady a lot of people choose to dislike tom brady and the pats for the simple fact that they're winners. fact is the pats are a very good team and tom brady is argueably the best qb in the league today. he could go down as one of the best qbs to ever play in the nfl and like someone said earlier, if he retired after this season he would be a first ballot hall of famer. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

01-14-2007, 09:21 PM	#15
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,592	Re: Tom "Iceman" Brady I look at the Pat organization and then I look at the Skins and it's like night and day.

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