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Old 01-23-2007, 07:42 PM   #1
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Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???

The bidding war for these two guys is going to prevent us from getting them. If we want to be fiscaly responsible and address all of our other needs we probably need to look else where.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:13 PM   #2
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The bidding war for these two guys is going to prevent us from getting them. If we want to be fiscaly responsible and address all of our other needs we probably need to look else where.
I agree. If signing one of these guys prevents us from getting an MLB or DE (and we need both) then we are just pissing in the wind.

I would rather go after Smoot who will be much cheaper.

When Springs gets hurt a combination of Smoot, Rogers and Wright would be good enough until SS came back (as long as they are getting a consistent pass rush). Essentially that would be 3 #2 corners.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:39 PM   #3
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I agree. If signing one of these guys prevents us from getting an MLB or DE (and we need both) then we are just pissing in the wind.
I would rather go after Smoot who will be much cheaper.
When Springs gets hurt a combination of Smoot, Rogers and Wright would be good enough until SS came back (as long as they are getting a consistent pass rush). Essentially that would be 3 #2 corners.
That is not a bad idea, it solves two needs in a responsible way. Although Smoot would have to agree to a pay cut.
I do not think corner is our #1 need. It is third.
#1 in my estimation is SS (A.Archuleta failure) is very glaring need. LB & DE is second and CB & OG are tied for third.
Safety is a very important position. Even if we draft another FS and move Sean Taylor to SS, we would be set.
I know we will draft a defensive player, most likely a DE, Safety or Corner with our 1st round pick. We have to do a better job in the draft. I am tired of over paying FA's.
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Old 01-23-2007, 09:31 PM   #4
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Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???

asante samuel has tremendous upside though.
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:30 AM   #5
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Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???

Why don't we just trade for Ty Law?
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:51 AM   #6
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Why don't we just trade for Ty Law?
What would we trade them? Also, isn't he in the same category as Springs? The general consensus is that they should utilize their draft picks as opposed to trading them for guys with limited time left in the league.
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Old 01-24-2007, 01:18 AM   #7
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What would we trade them? Also, isn't he in the same category as Springs? The general consensus is that they should utilize their draft picks as opposed to trading them for guys with limited time left in the league.
I was kidding
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Old 01-24-2007, 08:38 AM   #8
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Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???

Both are sound players and, in theory, could make a positive impact on next years team. We will have to play 'wait and see' on such acquisitions from the personnel evaluators.

I don't expect a big free agent acquisition off-season for the Redskins ... just a from-the-gut feeling.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:26 AM   #9
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Both are sound players and, in theory, could make a positive impact on next years team. We will have to play 'wait and see' on such acquisitions from the personnel evaluators.

I don't expect a big free agent acquisition off-season for the Redskins ... just a from-the-gut feeling.
This is the Redskins we're talking about.

With limited draft picks there's only one way to address our needs... free agency.

There's bound to be at least one big name signing.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:21 AM   #10
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Totally random, but this cracked me up.

It looks like he's saying: "Hey sailor! Nice ass!!"
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:23 AM   #11
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Totally random, but this cracked me up.

It looks like he's saying: "Hey sailor! Nice ass!!"
LOL. Of course, he'd have to be saying that with a lisp.
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:57 PM   #12
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The secondary was weak on depth and talent wise but I think the fact we had no pressure on the qb played more into them getting torched than anything else.
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:07 PM   #13
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Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???

Our problem all year happened at the LOS. Andre Carter was terrible vs. the run. He was our lone bright spot against the pass. Our blitzes are ineffective because it blitzing negates Carter's ability to utilize the speed rush. On top of that, we were terrible on third and long.

We are likely stuck with Carter, so its time to build around him. Upgrade DT, upgrade the other end. Get a MLB with sideline to sideline speed to string out plays designed to go at Andre Carter.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:24 AM   #14
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Re: Asante Samuel or Nate Clements???

GW let smoot go because he wasn't a great tackler. he passed up andre dyson (and instead used a draft pick on a CB instead of DL) because dyson isn't a great tackler... so i'm not sure if the bring smoot back campaign is going to work.

I mean, all three years, we've been terrible at defending #2 WRs. that's part of why pulling springs from the starting lineup seems stupid to me.
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GW let smoot go because he wasn't a great tackler. he passed up andre dyson (and instead used a draft pick on a CB instead of DL) because dyson isn't a great tackler... so i'm not sure if the bring smoot back campaign is going to work.

I mean, all three years, we've been terrible at defending #2 WRs. that's part of why pulling springs from the starting lineup seems stupid to me.
I'll take someone who can cover.

Kenny Wright could tackle, but only when he was chasing someone down after a long gain.

This is the crap that pisses me off about GW. Sure, he has a proven system, but SO DO OTHER TEAMS. He doesn't play his rookies, has to HAVE a physical corner, HAS to do shit differently. Other teams do the opposites and still have success.
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