Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure?

[Gmanc711]

Failure. I'll give him 2000, becuase I'm putting that year on Danny. He had a good team in 1999, had Danny not bought the team could he have taken it somewhere? Who knows.

IMO, that 99' team was good enough to win the Super Bowl, and if it wasent for the collapse in Tampa, I think they very well might have.

Overall though, numbers dont lie, its a failure. I'm interested to see how many coaches started 7-1 and missed the playoffs.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Failure. I'll give him 2000, becuase I'm putting that year on Danny. He had a good team in 1999, had Danny not bought the team could he have taken it somewhere? Who knows.

IMO, that 99' team was good enough to win the Super Bowl, and if it wasent for the collapse in Tampa, I think they very well might have.

Overall though, numbers dont lie, its a failure. I'm interested to see how many coaches started 7-1 and missed the playoffs.

Oh hell, Gmanc! Stop kicking us when we're down. I know I was stationed in Colorado Springs that year. What year was that '96? '97? The pain...looks like I'm hitting the bottle tonight.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Oh hell, Gmanc! Stop kicking us when we're down. I know I was stationed in Colorado Springs that year. What year was that '96? '97? The pain...looks like I'm hitting the bottle tonight.

I went to the game in Buffalo that year, the game that started the downward spiral...I just remember looking at a Redskins fan on the way out (I was like 8 at the time and he goes "At least were still 7-2" and I remember clear as day going " Have you watched this team the last 4 years?...I got a bad feeling" 9 weeks later, it was over.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Failure. I'll give him 2000, becuase I'm putting that year on Danny. He had a good team in 1999, had Danny not bought the team could he have taken it somewhere? Who knows.

IMO, that 99' team was good enough to win the Super Bowl, and if it wasent for the collapse in Tampa, I think they very well might have.

Overall though, numbers dont lie, its a failure. I'm interested to see how many coaches started 7-1 and missed the playoffs.

So you think the 99 team would have beaten the Rams? I doubt it. The 99 Rams simply had a great offense and our defesne would not have slowed them down. If I recall that year our defense was average at best. The best team won it in 99.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think the 99 team would have beaten the Rams? I doubt it. The 99 Rams simply had a great offense and our defesne would not have slowed them down. If I recall that year our defense was average at best. The best team won it in 99.

Stop this living in the past B.S.! Just kidding!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you think the 99 team would have beaten the Rams? I doubt it. The 99 Rams simply had a great offense and our defesne would not have slowed them down. If I recall that year our defense was average at best. The best team won it in 99.

You know what's interesting is that the Redskins in 2000 built their team with the mindset of beating the Rams. They got their shutdown corner in Deion, their hard hitting safety in Mark Carrier, and their pass rusher in Bruce Smith.

And lo and behold, in 2000 they smoked them on a Monday night. And then they just collapsed. It's like that was their own personal Super Bowl.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

You know what's interesting is that the Redskins in 2000 built their team with the mindset of beating the Rams. They got their shutdown corner in Deion, their hard hitting safety in Mark Carrier, and their pass rusher in Bruce Smith.

And lo and behold, in 2000 they smoked them on a Monday night. And then they just collapsed. It's like that was their own personal Super Bowl.

Yeah I remember that game. Jeff George was the QB filling in for an injured Brad Johnson. Too bad all those players were all past their prime.

[celts32]

It was a complete and utter failure in every sense of the word. Anyone who thinks it wasn't has mellowed over the time since it passed. How many years did he have 6 or 7 and he still could not build a contender? Most teams give a coach 3 years now to get it done. He is a bad head coach...good asisstant but bad head coach.

[B.F. SKINner]

Hiring a coach from Dallas to be the Redskins head coach brought a curse to this organization. When Norv goes back home to Dallas, the curse will be lifted and all will be right again!

[FRPLG]

1997. Ugh..

[skins009]

The guy is a classic coordinator not head coach. Zero personality and heart, just see his record in Oakland.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skins009

The guy is a classic coordinator not head coach. Zero personality and heart, just see his record in Oakland.

Norv Turner record as Oakland HC: 9-23

Oakland combined record in the year that preceeded and the year followed Turner: 6-26

Oakland record against Washington Redskins in that 4 year time-span: 1-0

Study with statistically insignificant results: Priceless!

[724Skinsfan]

The mid-nineties were so catastrophic to a Redskins fan's psyche. It was a time (for some of us) in which the shadow of the first Gibbs era still cast a looming shadow. The multitude excuses and emphatic "wait till next year" phrases were tossed around like beads at a Mardi Gras parade. It was the start of the era of "The Quick Fix". I can remember thinking every year that we were still a powerhouse team from the eighties, we just needed one or two guys to come in and shore up a weak spot.

Well over a decade later, the same stagnant thoughts float dismally in my head. And I still say "wait till next year". Weird!

Who could forget the phrase "What we have works!"

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

The mid-nineties were so catastrophic to a Redskins fan's psyche. It was a time (for some of us) in which the shadow of the first Gibbs era still cast a looming shadow. The multitude excuses and emphatic "wait till next year" phrases were tossed around like beads at a Mardi Gras parade. It was the start of the era of "The Quick Fix". I can remember thinking every year that we were still a powerhouse team from the eighties, we just needed one or two guys to come in and shore up a weak spot.

Well over a decade later, the same stagnant thoughts float dismally in my head. And I still say "wait till next year". Weird!

Who could forget the phrase "What we have works!"

We sure were spoiled in the eighties and early nineties weren't we? At least we have a couple of playoff victories since our last Super Bowl, that's more than some teams have had.

[saden1]

Norv had shitty player to say the least. He really did OK with the offense but the defense was non-existent. I still can't get over that 7-1 start that went all for null. I would have no issue with having him as a offensive coordinator but I'm not so sure he is cut out to be a head coach. He is simply too nice and unlike Tony Dungy he doesn't have great players to compensate for his "niceness."