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Old 05-07-2007, 12:37 PM   #1
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Not only that, he did a lot more with a lot less (receptions).
Yeah and as GTripp pointed out his moves after the catch are the best of any TE in the league. (Forgot about that in my little pro-cooley rant)
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Old 05-07-2007, 03:04 PM   #2
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Yeah and as GTripp pointed out his moves after the catch are the best of any TE in the league. (Forgot about that in my little pro-cooley rant)
That's OK Aussie, your pro Cooley rant was well recieved! Capn. Chaos would approve.

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Old 05-07-2007, 11:16 PM   #3
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That's OK Aussie, your pro Cooley rant was well recieved! Capn. Chaos would approve.
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Yeah and as GTripp pointed out his moves after the catch are the best of any TE in the league. (Forgot about that in my little pro-cooley rant)
LOL. Nothing against GTripp, but I wouldn't say that he has a lot of "moves", but he definitely finds a way of breaking tackles.
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:55 PM   #5
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LOL. Nothing against GTripp, but I wouldn't say that he has a lot of "moves", but he definitely finds a way of breaking tackles.
As long as he breaks tackles and continues to pile up the YAC, his 'moves' need to be praised!
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:52 AM   #6
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Cooley must be a priority for this franchise, this year.

Last season he was 3rd in the NFC in recieving yards for TE's

His stats were: 734 yards and 6 TD's

The two guys who had more yards were;

Witten 754 yards but only managed 1 TD to Cooley's 6.

Crumpler who amassed 780 yards, but is easily Atlanta's number one recieving option and should have alot more yards than Cooley, who had to compete with Moss, ARE and Lloyd for catches.

So, Cooley based on those stats is the best TE in the NFC, also, he was barely thrown to early in the season and really only got the ball thrown his way consistently once Campbell started. How Cooley didn't make the pro bowl still puzzles me!

He has amazing hands, is a good blocker, good burst to get open, great motor always giving 100%, has great presence on the field (Who wouldn't go into battle with captain chaos?!) and on top of all that is a very marketable player.

There is every reason to resign him and none not to.

He will be resigned!
Receiver yardade, in general, is troublesome, BUT in this case I feel your numbers are very relivant.

Cooley isn't our number one target. For the second straight season now, he has led all TEs in YAC. That play against Carolina, he's the only TE in the league who does it. That's a knockdown for most guys, a catch and tackle for the good ones, a long gain for an elite few, but Cooley is the only one who has the speed and balance, much like a RB out there, to take that one the distance.

His blocking is the only thing holding him back from being the league's top TE, and that should improve over time.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:14 PM   #7
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Does anyon know when the lat time was that the Redskins re-did a contract during the season? Was it Lavar? I'm not sure, but it would be nice to lock Cooley up so we don't have to sweat on it.
Maybe we throw in a couple a more cheerleaders for incentive. Blah, ha, ha ,ha ha, ha!
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cooley will be resigned
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the people around here screaming that Cooley be resigned will be the same ones that bitch about the redskins over paying for him
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the people around here screaming that Cooley be resigned will be the same ones that bitch about the redskins over paying for him
Not neccessarily. I think the Dockery signing is a perfect example. Everyone wanted to resign him but not at the TRULY exhorbitant numbers. No one talked of Dockery being a top 10 guard.

I think we should be up for paying the guy a premium. After letting AP get away over a relatively small percent, I would hope they've learned their lesson. To a certain extent, they have set the market for themselves. If you're gonna throw money at new guys - then treat the locals with the same respect.

Once they've paid off a few talented character guys and stopped overpaying for other guys FA's THEN we can bitch about paying too much for our own - maybe not premium - players.
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Not neccessarily. I think the Dockery signing is a perfect example. Everyone wanted to resign him but not at the TRULY exhorbitant numbers. No one talked of Dockery being a top 10 guard.

I think we should be up for paying the guy a premium. After letting AP get away over a relatively small percent, I would hope they've learned their lesson. To a certain extent, they have set the market for themselves. If you're gonna throw money at new guys - then treat the locals with the same respect.

Once they've paid off a few talented character guys and stopped overpaying for other guys FA's THEN we can bitch about paying too much for our own - maybe not premium - players.
I agree! I don't know of one sole that would be against or would be crying about paying our own, that ARE top tier players in this league their fair market price.

I think it would be the other way around. If you DID NOT pay a player that has proven to be either the BEST or VERY CLOSE TO at their position, and let them go and give somebody else the payday.

Take care of your proven players and leaders FIRST! Pay them accordingly.
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Cooley is certainly worthy of the franchise tag, I don't see the team letting him get away under any circumstances. This year the franchise tag value for TEs is $4.28 million. That will go up some next year, but certainly the Redskins can fit the one-year franchise tag value under their cap next season.

Many salaries do indeed baloon next year, but there definitely is enough flexibility to restructure some players and cut others. Letting Brunell go after this year will trim at least $3.5 million off our 2008 cap. Cutting Phillip Daniels would trim another $3.0 million. We have the flexibility we need, we can take care of Cooley for the long term or we can franchise him.
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Cooley is certainly worthy of the franchise tag, I don't see the team letting him get away under any circumstances. This year the franchise tag value for TEs is $4.28 million. That will go up some next year, but certainly the Redskins can fit the one-year franchise tag value under their cap next season.

Many salaries do indeed baloon next year, but there definitely is enough flexibility to restructure some players and cut others. Letting Brunell go after this year will trim at least $3.5 million off our 2008 cap. Cutting Phillip Daniels would trim another $3.0 million. We have the flexibility we need, we can take care of Cooley for the long term or we can franchise him.
The problem with the franchise tag is that with all the escalators, it's essentially a one year thing. Works fine for 2008, but wouldn't using the tag on a guy make it harder to get a long term deal done.

I realize it could buy us more time, and that alone could be worth it, but we won't have the cap room in 2009 to Franchise him again. I'd like to see a deal done before November.
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The problem with the franchise tag is that with all the escalators, it's essentially a one year thing. Works fine for 2008, but wouldn't using the tag on a guy make it harder to get a long term deal done.

I realize it could buy us more time, and that alone could be worth it, but we won't have the cap room in 2009 to Franchise him again. I'd like to see a deal done before November.
Yes, signing him to a long term deal would be, quite obviously, preferable to franchising him.
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Many salaries do indeed baloon next year, but there definitely is enough flexibility to restructure some players and cut others. Letting Brunell go after this year will trim at least $3.5 million off our 2008 cap. Cutting Phillip Daniels would trim another $3.0 million. We have the flexibility we need, we can take care of Cooley for the long term or we can franchise him.
That's fine. Given the Skins modus operandi, I do not doubt that there would be some flexibility. I haven't looked at the cap sheets so I wasn't sure just how much.

As there will be a 10M bump in the cap next year (which, as I recall, we are already tight against), I was more concerned that, if Cooley hits the open market, we could fairly easily be outbid for him as other teams will have significantly more cap room than us.
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