Remembering Our Local Fallen Heroes Thread

[dmek25]

so smooty, how's the weather up there?

[MTK]

Obviously some people here are incapable of engaging in civil and thoughtful discussion without resorting to childish threats and immature name calling.

For those that can however, carry on. Let's not let one bad apple ruin the bunch.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Obviously some people here are incapable of engaging in civil and thoughtful discussion without resorting to childish threats and immature name calling.

For those that can however, carry on. Let's not let one bad apple ruin the bunch.

Just can't let it go huh?
Gotta just add one more dig.
Typical for you guys.

thehedricks2@comcast.net for you when you email Tess Davis and make sure you CC or BCC me guys. Thanks for all you do.

peace
mike

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

Just can't let it go huh?
Gotta just add one more dig.
Typical for you guys.

thehedricks2@comcast.net for you when you email Tess Davis and make sure you CC or BCC me guys. Thanks for all you do.

peace
mike

SBF, e-mailed at 11:11 with e-mail address starting with viz___

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

Just can't let it go huh?
Gotta just add one more dig.
Typical for you guys.

thehedricks2@comcast.net for you when you email Tess Davis and make sure you CC or BCC me guys. Thanks for all you do.

peace
mike

Thanks for making my point.

~shakes head and walks away.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Thanks for making my point.

~shakes head and walks away.

Amazing isn't it?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

A poster got me thinking that yes we should remember the fallen heros if we are going to remember Birthdays and other things.

I lost a fellow Woodbridger this last week. I don't know him or his family but my heart goes out to them.




Not sure if photo will work.

Yes I saw this on the news as well. I attended all four years of High School at Gar-Field. Likewise I did not know him or his family, but my brother and alot of my high school friends still live there. It is just like losing one of your own when it hits that close to home. I too would like to send my condolences to his family.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Yes I saw this on the news as well. I attended all four years of High School at Gar-Field. Likewise I did not know him or his family, but my brother and alot of my high school friends still live there. It is just like losing one of your own when it hits that close to home. I too would like to send my condolences to his family.

But to be honest, to me they are all local.

[KLHJ2]

In my personal opinion I believe that you can support the troops without supporting the cause. Just as many Americans are torn over whether or not this war is just, so are the soldiers on the ground. They share the many diverse opinions of those backgrounds that they hail from. Unfortunately, it is not their decision which battles they will or will not fight. They are given a mission and must perform their duties regardless of their political position on the matter. To crucify someone for not supporting the war is absurd, so long as they support the troops.

Even if they do not support the troops, it is their right. It's not one that I necessarily agree with, but it is theirs all the same.

My position: I was a soldier, I was there, I support the troops, and I support the war. I had military buddies that didnt agree with the war just as I have civilian aquaintences now who do not support it. The one thing that they all have in common is that they do support the troops.

Support Defined: Many people believe that support means that you must go above and beyond to aid those men and women. In actuality support shows itself in many other facets. Lighting a candle when a servicemenber falls. Welcoming one home with a simple hello as you pass them down the street. Placing a yellow ribbon on a tree or a magnet on your car. Treating them like a human being or even offering a discount at your establishment. The easiest way though, is to just be polite. That action right there speaks louder than all the words you can express, and provides a larger bounty than any care package you could ever send. Do not feel guilty if you feel that you havent lived up to the support "quota".

But they do love those care packages.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by angryssg

In my personal opinion I believe that you can support the troops without supporting the cause. Just as many Americans are torn over whether or not this war is just, so are the soldiers on the ground. They share the many diverse opinions of those backgrounds that they hail from. Unfortunately, it is not their decision which battles they will or will not fight. They are given a mission and must perform their duties regardless of their political position on the matter. To crucify someone for not supporting the war is absurd, so long as they support the troops.

Even if they do not support the troops, it is their right. It's not one that I necessarily agree with, but it is theirs all the same.

My position: I was a soldier, I was there, I support the troops, and I support the war. I had military buddies that didnt agree with the war just as I have civilian aquaintences now who do not support it. The one thing that they all have in common is that they do support the troops.

Support Defined: Many people believe that support means that you must go above and beyond to aid those men and women. In actuality support shows itself in many other facets. Lighting a candle when a servicemenber falls. Welcoming one home with a simple hello as you pass them down the street. Placing a yellow ribbon on a tree or a magnet on your car. Treating them like a human being or even offering a discount at your establishment. The easiest way though, is to just be polite. That action right there speaks louder than all the words you can express, and provides a larger bounty than any care package you could ever send. Do not feel guilty if you feel that you havent lived up to the support "quota".

But they do love those care packages.

That's a great post. And you've been there so no one can say you don't know what you're talking about.

Good job Angry

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by angryssg

In my personal opinion I believe that you can support the troops without supporting the cause. Just as many Americans are torn over whether or not this war is just, so are the soldiers on the ground. They share the many diverse opinions of those backgrounds that they hail from. Unfortunately, it is not their decision which battles they will or will not fight. They are given a mission and must perform their duties regardless of their political position on the matter. To crucify someone for not supporting the war is absurd, so long as they support the troops.

Even if they do not support the troops, it is their right. It's not one that I necessarily agree with, but it is theirs all the same.

My position: I was a soldier, I was there, I support the troops, and I support the war. I had military buddies that didnt agree with the war just as I have civilian aquaintences now who do not support it. The one thing that they all have in common is that they do support the troops.

Support Defined: Many people believe that support means that you must go above and beyond to aid those men and women. In actuality support shows itself in many other facets. Lighting a candle when a servicemenber falls. Welcoming one home with a simple hello as you pass them down the street. Placing a yellow ribbon on a tree or a magnet on your car. Treating them like a human being or even offering a discount at your establishment. The easiest way though, is to just be polite. That action right there speaks louder than all the words you can express, and provides a larger bounty than any care package you could ever send. Do not feel guilty if you feel that you havent lived up to the support "quota".

But they do love those care packages.

This is well stated. The thing we must avoid, regardless of our opinions on the war, is what happened after Vietnam. After Vietnam many returning soldiers faced either 1.) open hostility from SOME who oppossed the war or 2.) awkward silence from those who generally supported the war but were tired of the whole thing by then. These attitudes were pervasive in the culture for several years. I could go into the whole "Deer Hunter" thing, blah, blah. Anyone my age or older who was paying attention knows what I mean. The military and military people were not widely treated with respect again until the early 1980s or so. I remember my father seeing an airline advert that featured a young soldier going home or something (this was in the 80s) and commenting on the fact that it represented a real shift in popular sentiment or at least the sentiments of Mad Avenue at the time. The fact that no one feels comfortable blaming the soldiers is some progress at least.

[Riggo44]

Good post angryssg! And thank you for serving are great nation.
Here is a page with a picture and caption of all the soldiers that have paid the ultimate price for us in Iraq.
We should not ever forget them.
Forces: U.S. & Coalition/Casualties - Special Reports

[saden1]

I support the troops, those who are present and those who have past. I love them with all my heart and it pains me to see so many of them die at such a young age.

I want to bring to your attention to Joseph Briseno Jr, a true hero whose pain I can not begin to imagine. His family is in need of financial support as they have exsusted all their savings to care for Jay. If anyone in here is interested in donating to the family please let me know. I am willing to match all donation up to $500.

Joseph Briseno Sr., father of Joseph Briseno Jr., can be reached via e-mail, brisenojoseph@hotmail.com, or by writing them at 9304 Jan St., Manassas Park, Va. 20111.

[Monkeydad]

Getting back to the purpose of the thread...

One of the best charities out there now is called the Freedom Alliance. 100% of their money goes to help send kids of our lost heroes to college on scholarships. It's the least we can do. Often the kids are forgotten after memorial services. They're missing a parent and perhaps the opportunity to afford college to make a future for themselves.

I've donated and would hope everyone else considers it, irregardless of political preferences and views on the war.

Freedom Alliance - Scholarship Fund


***Thanks for serving for us, angryssg. I sincerely mean thank you. My great grandfather, grandfather and father all served in WWI, WWII and Vietnam. I have the heart to serve but due to physical issues, I can't. I feel guilty about it sometimes and wish I could fulfill my duties, but since I can't I just do as much as possible to support those who are serving in my place and I want to make sure you guys know you are appreciated. I guess this willingness but not ability to be in the military is why I so passionately support and even defend you guys when you're not here to speak for yourselves.

I've tried to get into the DoD or a civilian service position so I can feel like I'm really doing more to contribute, but that job search is still ongoing.







By the way, I have to say one more thing about the previous bru-ha-ha. BSB just said I made a political statement...if you had read my previous posts BSB, I was saying to put politics aside. If you're incapable of that, I feel sorry for you. I've said all I'll say in this stupid argument. We need to honor and support our troops. If you can't, leave the thread and find one that you won't derail.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

By the way, I have to say one more thing about the previous bru-ha-ha. BSB just said I made a political statement...if you had read my previous posts BSB, I was saying to put politics aside. If you're incapable of that, I feel sorry for you. I've said all I'll say in this stupid argument. We need to honor and support our troops. If you can't, leave the thread and find one that you won't derail.

Couldn't leave well enough alone could you?

BSB, no need to respond to these comments. We all know, as you've stated, of your honor and support of the troops