New level of disrespect

[TheMalcolmConnection]

They pretty much only looked at the starters obviously. While they mentioned the backups, can anyone honestly tell me they really rated PAST the starters?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

They pretty much only looked at the starters obviously. While they mentioned the backups, can anyone honestly tell me they really rated PAST the starters?

I am a lawyer - I can honestly tell you anything you want to hear.

But yes - this is just rating the starters.

[D'BOYZ]

really guys you get upset of a report that has jacksonville as the 11th best situation and baltimore in the top 10 come on really If I see a worse situation is NYG come Eli sucks we all know it tiki and his last name carried his ass the past 3 years and who's his backup if he goes down you don't have a brunnell type behind him.

just a question which spot was Dal put and what did it said don't have access and curios

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

really guys you get upset of a report that has jacksonville as the 11th best situation and baltimore in the top 10 come on really If I see a worse situation is NYG come Eli sucks we all know it tiki and his last name carried his ass the past 3 years and who's his backup if he goes down you don't have a brunnell type behind him.

just a question which spot was Dal put and what did it said don't have access and curios

Eli is streaky just like alot of NFL QB's. He's had some really great games and he's had some really bad ones. He's right in the middle of the pack w/ Romo.

[saden1]

I like having Brunell as my backup...I would rather not see him on the field but having him there makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[freddyg12]

T. Bradshaw had JC rated as the #6 "young qb" in one of the pregame shows last season. He & H. Long seemed to be impressed with him. I must be watching through rose (or is it burgundy?) colored glasses, cause I saw a kid last year w/great poise that made plays & only had a few mistakes. I certainly didn't end last season thinking that we have issues at qb! I certainly didn't think JC added to our 5-11 record. If anything, against Carolina & the Saints, he made plays that helped us win.

I think part of the reasoning that a lot of media heads are going on is thier recent history of rightly criticising the skins. Since they've questioned even Gibbs, especially when he drafted JC, it becomes hard now to say that he made a good move after all & found a qb of the future. It's way too early for any of them to eat crow, we have to win first w/JC, but I really question anyone's judgement that watched him last year & still doesn't see great potential.

Since they won't say it, I will; Jason Campbell, future Super Bowl MVP!

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I think part of the reasoning that a lot of media heads are going on is thier recent history of rightly criticising the skins. Since they've questioned even Gibbs, especially when he drafted JC, it becomes hard now to say that he made a good move after all & found a qb of the future. It's way too early for any of them to eat crow, we have to win first w/JC, but I really question anyone's judgement that watched him last year & still doesn't see great potential.

Since they won't say it, I will; Jason Campbell, future Super Bowl MVP!

I don't think many question was or gibbs for that matter, what everyone question was his move to the first round before the draft started to get him everyone thought he would be there in the second round, and being that Rodgers who was the #2 QB and fell 1 spot before you took campbell so I have no doubt he would had gone early second round and that's what the media complains that Snyder/Gibbs sold the farm to early and we now know how much value draft picks have.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

I don't think many question was or gibbs for that matter, what everyone question was his move to the first round before the draft started to get him everyone thought he would be there in the second round, and being that Rodgers who was the #2 QB and fell 1 spot before you took campbell so I have no doubt he would had gone early second round and that's what the media complains that Snyder/Gibbs sold the farm to early and we now know how much value draft picks have.

The Skins didn't have a 2nd rnd. pick that year as I recall. They traded their first (the next year's) plus a 3rd for Denver's 1st. JC would've definitely been gone by the time the Skins picked in the 3rd.

While I don't agree w/ a lot of personnel moves we've made - see b. loyd- to go & get JC was the right one, even if he doesn't turn out to be that good. It was the right move because Gibbs believed he could be the qb of the future (as I do) for 10+ years. Paying a 3rd rnd. pick to get the guy you think can lead your franchise for years (because we swapped 1st rnd. picks) is not much of a price.

I guarantee you, in 5-6 years, when people are debating Gibbs II, they will look back at his drafting JC as a major coup.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

The Skins didn't have a 2nd rnd. pick that year as I recall. They traded their first (the next year's) plus a 3rd for Denver's 1st. JC would've definitely been gone by the time the Skins picked in the 3rd.

While I don't agree w/ a lot of personnel moves we've made - see b. loyd- to go & get JC was the right one, even if he doesn't turn out to be that good. It was the right move because Gibbs believed he could be the qb of the future (as I do) for 10+ years. Paying a 3rd rnd. pick to get the guy you think can lead your franchise for years (because we swapped 1st rnd. picks) is not much of a price.

I guarantee you, in 5-6 years, when people are debating Gibbs II, they will look back at his drafting JC as a major coup.

yes this is the trade

1) Denver traded its first-round pick (No. 25) to Washington for the Redskins’ third-round pick (No. 76) and 2006 first- and fourth-round picks, April 19. Washington selected Auburn QB Jason Campbell. Denver selected Washington State CB Karl Paymah.

what everyone was saying is that gibbs could have traded with some of the high 2nd round teams and pay a lot less not only in draft picks but $$$$ and because the trade was unnecessary made pre draft gibbs didn't look how the draft was developing and who was willing to trade out later on which some teams would definitely do.

Gibbs taught Rodgers would be the second qb taken no later than the top 10 so he new a team might like to take campbell i nthe first round nobody expected Rodgers to fell so bad that's why you wait and don't make trades before the draft and it isn't as if it came cheap to make the trade earlier.

[Chief X_Phackter]

A whole lot of hype for nothing. This isn't the first article that isn't going to have the Redskins or their position players rated at the top of the league. Let the play determine the ranking come September, and let's not get our panties in a wad over some analysts idea of where the Redskins stand.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

A whole lot of hype for nothing. This isn't the first article that isn't going to have the Redskins or their position players rated at the top of the league. Let the play determine the ranking come September, and let's not get our panties in a wad over some analysts idea of where the Redskins stand.

I agree and think a person has to earn their respect and the facts are the Redskins have only had 2005 and then just flopped last year so they need to earn the respect.

[Rajmahal33]

Even IF this report is right and we have one of the worst QB situations (which i completely disagree with), it doesn't mean that we are not going to be productive offensively. We do have one of the best lines in football with two very very capable backs running behind them. Also having Saunders enter his second year has got to count for something. We have a talented receiving corps with some good depth as well. Basically even if Campbell lacks talent like this breakdown suggests, we can still be a playoff team without a doubt if our offense fires on all cylinders...Now about the defense, thats the real question IMO

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

Even IF this report is right and we have one of the worst QB situations (which i completely disagree with), it doesn't mean that we are not going to be productive offensively. We do have one of the best lines in football with two very very capable backs running behind them. Also having Saunders enter his second year has got to count for something. We have a talented receiving corps with some good depth as well. Basically even if Campbell lacks talent like this breakdown suggests, we can still be a playoff team without a doubt if our offense fires on all cylinders...Now about the defense, thats the real question IMO

That's a good point. You can look at the Giants/Ravens SuperBowl as an example of poor QB teams that made it. I, for one, am very excited about JC but still keeping a "wait and see" perspective.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

That's a good point. You can look at the Giants/Ravens SuperBowl as an example of poor QB teams that made it. I, for one, am very excited about JC but still keeping a "wait and see" perspective.

I'll go on record right now as saying that ALREADY JC is better than freaking Trent Dilfer.

[steveo395]

Who was ranked below us?