Just plain ugly

[MTK]

I actually thought the d-line did a decent job when rushing by themselves. Carter had some pressures and there were a few other times where Green got flushed out of the pocket.

And they were definitely stout against the run, any questions there were answered quite clearly today.

[Pocket$ $traight]

It was week one. I thought it was beautiful. We pissed all over one of the best defenses in football. I could watch this 20 times this year and not stop smiling.

[skinsfan_nn]

Yea, and we lost alot of close ones last season, that the opposing team won in a ugly fashion.

I certainly don't give a shit we WON! Care less about how pretty it was.

Not many though we could run the ball against this top rated D we did these are positives, this is momentum in the right direction.

[MTK]

Like this article basically says, when you think about it a lot of today really was classic Gibbs. He preaches stopping the run on D, and pounding it on O. And toss in some deep shots for those "explosive" plays. That's the classic Gibbs formula.

[ncskinsfanec]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yuck.

-- Campbell's out of sync
-- Moss missing perfectly thrown balls
-- Smoot getting torched -- they've been going after him all game
-- Cooley completely shut down

So far, not much different from a typical 2006 game

(at half-time)

Win's a win, baby!

[Rajmahal33]

Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Win's a win, baby!

Unfortunately its not that simple. We lost a key player today and on top of that we struggled against a very mediocre team. I hope its just a game of rust attributed to the fact that our 1st teamers didnt get time together. if we play like this we can expect a 6-10 or 7-9 season. we still didn't have a pass rush down the stretch and didn't capitalize on turnovers. Our secondary definitely looked like they went out and partied the nite before and were hungover during the game, with the exception of springs (what happened to Area 51???) I don't think I have ever been so relieved and at the same time disappointed after a game that we won.

[jsarno]

Here is the article that says it all:
Article 5 At the snap, all offensive players must be stationary in their positions:
(a) without any movement of feet, head, or arms;
(b) without swaying of body; and
(c) without moving directly forward except that one player only and he, playing in a
backfield position, may be in motion provided he is moving, parallel to, obliquely
backward from, or directly backward from the line of scrimmage at snap.

It's on page 41 FYI.

[love them hogs]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Here is the article that says it all:
Article 5 At the snap, all offensive players must be stationary in their positions:
(a) without any movement of feet, head, or arms;
(b) without swaying of body; and
(c) without moving directly forward except that one player only and he, playing in a
backfield position, may be in motion provided he is moving, parallel to, obliquely
backward from, or directly backward from the line of scrimmage at snap.

It's on page 41 FYI.

You do realize that the ball had not been snapped yet when they threw the flag dont you.That means this rule cant possibly apply to this situation.Its the first three words of the rule " At the snap".

[jsarno]

There is also this which means the penalty was legit:
Note 2: Non-abrupt movement of head and/or shoulders by offensive players prior to the
snap is legal. Players must come to a stop before ball is snapped. If officials judge the
action of the offensive players to be abrupt, false start foul is to be called.
Penalty: For player illegally in motion at snap: Loss of five yards from previous
spot. In case of doubt, this penalty shall be enforced.

[Darrell_Green_28]

i remember peyton manning pulling a sneaky play walking away from the line of scrimmage like he was confused like he was yelling to the sidelines to make the defense think nothing was happening then they snapped it to a back .. he was moving the whole time" so he did not come to a complete stop. this probably has nothing to do with this situation but he was in motion just not moving forward and apparently that was legal. so its just the linemen that cannot move at all once they are set. backs anc receivers can

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

i remember peyton manning pulling a sneaky play walking away from the line of scrimmage like he was confused like he was yelling to the sidelines to make the defense think nothing was happening then they snapped it to a back .. if i remember right. this probably has nothing to do with this situation but he was in motion just not moving forward and apparently that was legal. so its just the linemen that cannot move at all once they are set. backs anc receivers can

Not that this was the reason, but keep in mind Sellers was moving forward.

[Darrell_Green_28]

ack you responded while i was editing hehe oh i mean to say that during this whole time manning had went under center than was in motion the whole time and did not come to a complete stop for 1 sec before the snap, and no flag was thrown

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

ack you responded while i was editing hehe oh i mean to say that during this whole time manning had went under center than was in motion the whole time and did not come to a complete stop for 1 sec before the snap, and no flag was thrown

That's a good point...Marino did it one year too...that's interesting.

[bertoskins2]

campbell throws good deep ball
portis looks he is back

the defense needs to jell soon

[4mrusmc]

I agree the win was not pretty, but compared to last year I would trade for those 11 loses for 11 "ugly" wins. I hope that we can look better next week, but most of all I'm greatfull for the win, and hope for many more this year.