Gibbs hinted that Springs is hiding an injury

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I allways thought it was Springs. I thought most people thought it was Springs. I'm glad he did it though, I think its humbled GW and brought a lot of the disfunction out of the coaching staff.

I hope they give the starting pos. back to Springs.

Dont teams have to report injuries by Thursday?

I never understood why people thought it was Springs.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Are we still 100% sure that Archuleta was the mole in the locker room last year? I personally believe it was Archuleta, but hmmmm. Obviously we don't know the whole story, only soundbites and sporadic media coverage, and a lot of it could be taken out of context.

I hope this is a whole lot of nothing. Springs should start, period. Bring in Rogers for a third CB.

I thought it was quite obvious that it was AA.

He's not here, right?

[#56fanatic]

As JC from the post redskin insider said : it does seem to be some sort of punishment on the benching of Springs. He is generally around Redskin park most of the week, practices and meetings, and says that Springs is the best corner they have. He does not feel its anything to do with injury.

like i said earlier, if is in injured then why was he playing at all??? Also, doesn't Gibbs cherish the players that play nicked up, that fight on the field. This stinks of Snyder and his personal vendatas(forgive me if that is spelled wrong)

[SmootSmack]

We really don't need another "player in the doghouse" story. Hopefully it's something minor and we can just get on with the season.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We really don't need another "player in the doghouse" story. Hopefully it's something minor and we can just get on with the season.

I was just about to post something to this effect....if GW hasn't figured out that this kind of crap hurts the team...then he'll never be a head coach...granted that my statement is only valid if it is in fact a case of springs being "in the dog house"

[hagams]

Wow. I can't see him being injured as much as he has. I like him, but this can't be over-looked.

[freddyg12]

There was an article in the wash post a month ago or so in which Springs was asked by the coaches about playing nickel & he said he was cool w/it as it would help extend his career. Now it sounds like he's pissed at not starting, or at least pissed at Gibbs' explanation.

Hopefully the two talk this week & it's settled. I agree w/those who said that this sounds too much like a lavar, l. coles situation. They should be over that stuff, can't expect the team to come together w/those circumstances.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

There was an article in the wash post a month ago or so in which Springs was asked by the coaches about playing nickel & he said he was cool w/it as it would help extend his career. Now it sounds like he's pissed at not starting, or at least pissed at Gibbs' explanation.

Hopefully the two talk this week & it's settled. I agree w/those who said that this sounds too much like a lavar, l. coles situation. They should be over that stuff, can't expect the team to come together w/those circumstances.

no, he was asked about playing some safety. no just nickel packages.

[#56fanatic]

This all sounds a little familiar. Springs has contract dispute, now all of the sudden he isn't good enough to play? The guy says he is as healthy this year as he has been coming into the last 2 or 3 seasons. Yes smoot and rogers are younger, but no where near the cover abilities of Springs. Its crazy how these things all work out. I just think this has nothing to do with injury. If he was injured and cant run, then why did they play him at all? This stinks of Snyder laying down the hammer because Springs wouldn't redo his deal.

[dmek25]

i don't believe that any NFL coach would try to use playing time as a punishment. springs is easily the skins best corner. that would lead to the defense playing better. that would lead to more wins. this is the bottom line in pro sports. winning

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I thought the same thing about the money comment.

I decided not to comment on it because I always do when players say crap like that and it starts a shit storm saying the player doesn't deserve the cash.

Seriously though, his comments are ALWAYS over his salary, not about wanting to help the team.

[WillH]

To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by WillH

To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.

Lavar with a degenerative brain,knee,foot,hand,face, and arm condition was still better than Warrick Holdman.

He absolutely was put in the dog house. We saw that Lavar was still capable in Washington when he played, and in New York up until he got hurt again (achilles). Warrick Holdman hasn't been, and never will be close to the linebacker Lavar was, even while recovered from injury.

What's undeniable is that Rocky would have been better for the team to start. He was tearing it up on special teams, and when he finally got in he did great. Dale Lindsay really screwed up, and he got fired because of it.

"Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin'," Is a STAB. It's a direct attack at Snyder, and anyone who's tried to get him to lower his salary. I think the Danny has a problem with him, and it makes me curious as to the influence Dan Snyder has on things like this. Can he get players to not play as much?

My gut thinks that Joe is interested in winning football games first, and dealing with grudges second, but who really knows. Maybe the Dan tries to go through other routes than Gibbs; ie Lindsay last year?

For the record; I don't think Springs is wrong for not reducing his salary. The NFL is a business, and he's been more than earning of his contract. He's still our best corner, and if he can stay healthy he will earn his money.

My hope for this is that it will blow over, because not only is Springs right, but he's very good. This defense can't perform as well without him, and the Danny will have to give his ego a back seat, and let him play.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Lavar with a degenerative brain,knee,foot,hand,face, and arm condition was still better than Warrick Holdman.

He absolutely was put in the dog house. We saw that Lavar was still capable in Washington when he played, and in New York up until he got hurt again (achilles). Warrick Holdman hasn't been, and never will be close to the linebacker Lavar was, even while recovered from injury.

What's undeniable is that Rocky would have been better for the team to start. He was tearing it up on special teams, and when he finally got in he did great. Dale Lindsay really screwed up, and he got fired because of it.

"Man, with my salary this year I'm not trippin'," Is a STAB. It's a direct attack at Snyder, and anyone who's tried to get him to lower his salary. I think the Danny has a problem with him, and it makes me curious as to the influence Dan Snyder has on things like this. Can he get players to not play as much?

My gut thinks that Joe is interested in winning football games first, and dealing with grudges second, but who really knows. Maybe the Dan tries to go through other routes than Gibbs; ie Lindsay last year?

For the record; I don't think Springs is wrong for not reducing his salary. The NFL is a business, and he's been more than earning of his contract. He's still our best corner, and if he can stay healthy he will earn his money.

My hope for this is that it will blow over, because not only is Springs right, but he's very good. This defense can't perform as well without him, and the Danny will have to give his ego a back seat, and let him play.

Well put, you posted just before I did. That's the question, who is making the call on Springs not starting? and what's up w/this injury statement?

It does worry me that the danny might be doing the things you mention, especially if he's going through other coaches. I don't see Gibbs sitting someone over a contract issue, but if that player started to act negatively & was a problem in practice, that's another issue. That may have been the case w/Lavar, as he's not one to bite his tongue, but w/Springs it doesn't sound right. He seems much more savvy w/regard to PR & business.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by WillH

To all that are calling this a lavar type situation:

When they did that whole thing with lavar it wasn't over a contract dispute. Lavar had a degenerative knee problem, meaning the cells and tissue in his knee were constantly deteriorating, he was never going to be the same player again. The coaches had to find other options. Lavar may have been slighted, but it was undeniably good for the team.

If springs to has some debilitating injury, and will never be the same player again, then yes this is another lavar situation, and yes the coaches should see what else they have in smoot and rogers.

But we have heard nothing to suggest that so I will have to assume there is simply some miscommunication. Gibbs said he didn't look sharp in practice, but looked good come game time, and we all know Gibbs makes his decisions based on how people look in practice. So if he looks as good in practice this week as Gibbs thought he looked in pregame warm ups Sunday, he will be starting in Philly.

"that whole thing w/Lavar" started w/a contract dispute, a fairly major & public one at that. Lavar believed his agents, who said the team slighted him $6.5 mil in his contract, yet the agents acknowledged not reading the contract as they were under pressure to sign before a deadline. Add to that the Danny hates the Poston bros, Lavar's agents.

That was the beginning of Lavar's downfall in DC. You can try & separate the issue w/his knee, but the bad feelings & the public statements made by both sides over the contract definitely had something to do with it.

Even if it was just a matter of how Lavar's attitude changed in practice & around the coaches, it still affected the whole situation.

Could it be that Springs' likewise has become a little negative since they asked him to take a cut? Sure, could also be that the danny tells Gibbs & co. to sit players sometimes. He supposedly threatened Coles w/that.