It's only one game, get over it

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As much as people want to deny it, injuries can't be overlooked. Further, Jason Campbell had a terrible game today. Just awful. Does Campbell fumbling the way he did mean that Gibbs is out of touch? Nonsense

I think Belichick did what does best, he focuses on the opponents weakness (in this case Campbell, because of his inexperience) and masterfully rattled him.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As much as people want to deny it, injuries can't be overlooked. Further, Jason Campbell had a terrible game today. Just awful. Does Campbell fumbling the way he did mean that Gibbs is out of touch? Nonsense

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

Well we're just going to disagree on this I guess

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

Pats are a waaaaaaaaaaaay better team than we are. Plain and simple.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Yes, Joe Gibbs is out of touch. This was the same offense we have seen for the pass three weeks except it could't in the endzone until the second string defense of the Patriots hit the field. Gibbs admitted himself that he was responsible for the conservative playcalling that almost lost the game last week. Just look at the third down plays and you can predict who Campbell is going to pass to. Gibbs has not adjusted to what defenses are willing to gamble on which is the run. Portis is fucking finished with no 100yd games yet. Yes the offensive line is hurt but Betts deserves to get the most reps after this game. Everyone knows the offense is pathetic and cannot score more than 21 points on an average. That is Gibbs responsibilty as an offensive minded coach.

I'm not sure if its Gibbs or JC not seeing the field. When I was at the Giants game JC missed a ton of open players and he still is. He has not had a great game all year. I know he is young but its time he starts showing signs of getting better.

[twinskinsfan]

Yeah hats off to the Pats and put the ice on our asses for until week.

[JWsleep]

When Betts has gotten reps he's looked just as bad--look at his YPC. That suggests the O-line is to blame, not the backs who've both gained 1000 yards in a season in the NFL.

Look, Gibbs brought Sunders in and gave up the playcalling and the playbook. IMO, Saunders is the O-coordinator brought in at great expense to make this O work. Now, if you really want me to believe that Gibbs is just sabatoaging Saunders, I'd like some proof. Yes, they wanted to run out the clock up 21-6 against the cards--Saunders agreed that this was the move. And they won. If Saunders wants to do something else with the O, he needs to step up like a man and tell JG what he wants. Is he such a wimp that he can't do that? Be a friggin man.

But here's my guess--you've got a combination of things from top-to-bottom slowing the O right now. Injuries, execution, AND playcalling altogether. And my guess is Gibbs and Saunders are right on the same page about how to play things. I may be wrong, but I have not seen the evidence against this. JC--who has maybe started 15 games, did not look good on the road against a top-5 D--fire the coach!

If we cannot move the ball against the Jets and teams like that on the schedule, get back to me. (I'm sure you will! ) But I think you are over-reacting to a blowout on the road against one of the best teams, from top to bottom, in the history of the league. Give it a few weeks.

[redsk1]

It's only one game but we got embarrassed tonight. Mark it down that we'll never sniff the playoffs w/ an offense that we trotted out there tonight. Injuries or not. Our backup olineman are JV at best. Even w/ a couple injuries you should be able to move the football and occasionally score some points. Unfortunately, this has become a trend over the last 4 years. Bad offense. I'm not so much mad at the defense for some reason. I expected more out of the offense. The patriots aren't the 86 Bears.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by redsk1

It's only one game but we got embarrassed tonight. Mark it down that we'll never sniff the playoffs w/ an offense that we trotted out there tonight. Injuries or not. Our backup olineman are JV at best. Even w/ a couple injuries you should be able to move the football and occasionally score some points. Unfortunately, this has become a trend over the last 4 years. Bad offense. I'm not so much mad at the defense for some reason. I expected more out of the offense. The patriots aren't the 86 Bears.

I think our problem has been the QB turnover thru out the years, now that we got one, he's still young (almost a years worth experience) and the right side of the offensive being gone makes that much more difficult. Go ask Marc Bulger, he's having a similar season, maybe even worse due to injuries to their offensive line.

[Schneed10]

After I saw the results of the Patriots' first three games or so, I had us pegged for a big fat L on this one. Thinking otherwise would have been to live in a fantasy world, we're not nearly as good as them.

We're 4-3. We can still make the playoffs. I'm very concerned about injuries, but the Jets are up next. 5-3 is a good likelihood after this week.

After that, we will live or die on our remaining NFC East battles, as always. The Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants are NOT the New England Patriots. They are beatable. We have much to be concerned about, but nothing so dire that makes me want to stick a fork in the fat lady.

[MTK]

It's tough to show pride when the the other team is kicking it down your throat all day. It's called an ass whoopin' folks.

[Twilbert07]

It was sad that we couldn't even play with the Pats at all, in any part of the game or on any side of the ball. Our offense really is lame. I hope we start fast against the Jets and don't play down to their level.

[djnemo65]

Remember a couple years ago when we were playing the Giants for first place and got whacked 36-0? We came back the next week and took down a Philly team we hadn't beaten in years.

Gibbs will have everyone ready to play next week, bank on that.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Remember a couple years ago when we were playing the Giants for first place and got whacked 36-0? We came back the next week and took down a Philly team we hadn't beaten in years.

Gibbs will have everyone ready to play next week, bank on that.

I certainly hope so because based on the way we stopped playing against the Cardinals and then the way we played yesterday, we look more like last year's team right now.

The offense has to open it up versus the Jets, grab a lead early and keep pounding them.

[The Zimmermans]

I think a high school team would've played better yesterday. If we brought in all of our backups we woulda done better. Sorry sorry sorry performance. Everyone needs to get their heads outta their asses and look at what happened. We lost 52-7.

Ugh.....ok got it outta my system