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Old 11-18-2007, 08:43 PM   #1
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I'm proud how they fought today. Damn I wish Taylor was there to wipe the smirk off TO's grill.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:57 PM   #2
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When we lost to the Giants, it was all about allowing a team completely on the ropes to get back in the game, made even worse by a failure to convert when inside the 5 at the end of the game. When we lost to the Packers, it was all about a gazillion dropped balls and missed opportunities. When we lost to the Patriots, we all wondered how we could be that much worse than the best team in football. And when we lost to the Eagles, it was the Giants all over again.

But this was completely different. This was a loss where I thought, "Okay, this was nothing more than a tough game in which the opposition simply played a little bit better than us today." This was a road game against a very good team, and they won only because they were able to exploit our injuries. Nothing bad to be derived from this game, other than that we really miss our starters who are injured. That alone separates this from the other losses.

This has to be a confident-boosting game, and not just for JC, but for the defense and the entire receiving corps as well. Atta boys! Now let's go beat those Bucs!

Oh, and JC--my man--just work a little on leading your receivers.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:14 PM   #3
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When we lost to the Giants, it was all about allowing a team completely on the ropes to get back in the game, made even worse by a failure to convert when inside the 5 at the end of the game. When we lost to the Packers, it was all about a gazillion dropped balls and missed opportunities. When we lost to the Patriots, we all wondered how we could be that much worse than the best team in football. And when we lost to the Eagles, it was the Giants all over again.

But this was completely different. This was a loss where I thought, "Okay, this was nothing more than a tough game in which the opposition simply played a little bit better than us today." This was a road game against a very good team, and they won only because they were able to exploit our injuries. Nothing bad to be derived from this game, other than that we really miss our starters who are injured. That alone separates this from the other losses.

This has to be a confident-boosting game, and not just for JC, but for the defense and the entire receiving corps as well. Atta boys! Now let's go beat those Bucs!

Oh, and JC--my man--just work a little on leading your receivers.


EXACTLY. I dont think people go crazy after a loss like this; its the other types of losses we've had this year. We got outplayed by just a hair by the best team in the conference. I'm really upset/disspointed, but theres no shame in this loss like therew as last week/vs GB/vs NY/vs GB.
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I might agree, and sure I was drunk TOTALLY, but seriously did that ball from Rocky hit the ground? I thought he had his arm underneath it.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:03 PM   #5
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Ups to Matty. This was the team I thought we could yield this year. We were never going to be a 13 or 14 win team but I thought we could play like we did today all year. Maybe we can go forward and do what we did today play wise against everyone. If we do then we'll win our fair share.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:50 PM   #6
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Jesus Christ guys there is no such thing as a moral victory in this league. We lost against a top tier team. We shouldn't be happy or proud with losing. I've love this team and i can't take the losing anymore.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:06 PM   #7
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Jesus Christ guys there is no such thing as a moral victory in this league. We lost against a top tier team. We shouldn't be happy or proud with losing. I've love this team and i can't take the losing anymore.
Total agreement here. Having been a Skins fan since the early 80s, it amazes me how jaded Skins fans nowadays are. Mediocrity and losing "close games" are now acceptable?

This is Dallas...the ultimate enemy of any Redskin fan. Losing to them is NEVER a good loss...NEVER a moral victory. There's no such thing. This team has now lost two straight games in disappointing finishes to two hated rivals...and people are pleased??? Throw in the NYG loss from earlier this season and you're looking at 3 games the Redskins should have won. They're also 5-5 now in the WC game with difficult games ahead. Losing playoff position is ok too??

Yes there were injuries and other factors...yes they went into Dallas and lost a close game. But they still lost a very winnable game. I guess you all loved seeing Romo's silly, &%$@-eating grin over and over splashed on Fox. I guess it's ok to see TO running wild and mugging it up for the crowd at our expense since it's a MORAL victory...

Man...times have changed...I'm so mad I want to go throw a brick...no, a wheelbarrow full of bricks at anything with a Dallas star on it...and some folks here are ok with losing. Didn't used to be that way.
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Total agreement here. Having been a Skins fan since the early 80s, it amazes me how jaded Skins fans nowadays are. Mediocrity and losing "close games" are now acceptable?

This is Dallas...the ultimate enemy of any Redskin fan. Losing to them is NEVER a good loss...NEVER a moral victory. There's no such thing. This team has now lost two straight games in disappointing finishes to two hated rivals...and people are pleased??? Throw in the NYG loss from earlier this season and you're looking at 3 games the Redskins should have won. They're also 5-5 now in the WC game with difficult games ahead. Losing playoff position is ok too??

Yes there were injuries and other factors...yes they went into Dallas and lost a close game. But they still lost a very winnable game. I guess you all loved seeing Romo's silly, &%$@-eating grin over and over splashed on Fox. I guess it's ok to see TO running wild and mugging it up for the crowd at our expense since it's a MORAL victory...

Man...times have changed...I'm so mad I want to go throw a brick...no, a wheelbarrow full of bricks at anything with a Dallas star on it...and some folks here are ok with losing. Didn't used to be that way.
Exactly. Great post.

It's okay to look at a loss and say, hey, we did a few things really well. I think everyone was happy to see JC pick apart a very good team on the road. But there are no "moral" victories when playing the Cowboys. You win or you lose. Unfortunately we were on the latter end of that equation today.
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Total agreement here. Having been a Skins fan since the early 80s, it amazes me how jaded Skins fans nowadays are. Mediocrity and losing "close games" are now acceptable?

This is Dallas...the ultimate enemy of any Redskin fan. Losing to them is NEVER a good loss...NEVER a moral victory. There's no such thing. This team has now lost two straight games in disappointing finishes to two hated rivals...and people are pleased??? Throw in the NYG loss from earlier this season and you're looking at 3 games the Redskins should have won. They're also 5-5 now in the WC game with difficult games ahead. Losing playoff position is ok too??

Yes there were injuries and other factors...yes they went into Dallas and lost a close game. But they still lost a very winnable game. I guess you all loved seeing Romo's silly, &%$@-eating grin over and over splashed on Fox. I guess it's ok to see TO running wild and mugging it up for the crowd at our expense since it's a MORAL victory...

Man...times have changed...I'm so mad I want to go throw a brick...no, a wheelbarrow full of bricks at anything with a Dallas star on it...and some folks here are ok with losing. Didn't used to be that way.
I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would try to spin this angle.

Personally I'm not "ok with losing".

But overall, I feel that there were a lot of positives to take away from this game. We don't need to walk away from this game with our heads down, the team went all out, played a damn good game, and lost. Sometimes you can put forth a great effort and still lose.

I'm not ok with losing, I'm simply proud of the overall effort I saw today. They are two completely separate things, don't confuse the two.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:27 PM   #10
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I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would try to spin this angle.

Personally I'm not "ok with losing".

But overall, I feel that there were a lot of positives to take away from this game. We don't need to walk away from this game with our heads down, the team went all out, played a damn good game, and lost. Sometimes you can put forth a great effort and still lose.

I'm not ok with losing, I'm simply proud of the overall effort I saw today. They are two completely separate things, don't confuse the two.
Exactly, I haven't read anyone post 'I'm happy that we lost' or 'It's ok we lost because we played well' but as opposed to the NYG or PHI losses where we played not to lose and did anyways or the NE game where we got our doors blown off or the GB game where we played poorly and lost to a team we should have beaten, this was a tough, well played, well coached game and we got beat by a better team.

There have been 2 games where I felt we weren't the better team on the field, NE and today. Doesn't make either loss any less infuriating but at least we didn't give yet another game to an inferior opponent.
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I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would try to spin this angle.

Personally I'm not "ok with losing".

But overall, I feel that there were a lot of positives to take away from this game. We don't need to walk away from this game with our heads down, the team went all out, played a damn good game, and lost. Sometimes you can put forth a great effort and still lose.

I'm not ok with losing, I'm simply proud of the overall effort I saw today. They are two completely separate things, don't confuse the two.
Well said. Hard to argue with our effort. I'm pissed at missing opportunities again against a division rival in the second half. But it's not like it was the NE game. We hung with probably the 2nd best team in the league in their house and were it not for a bad pick (beating ourselves) we very well may have won, despite being injury riddled.
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I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would try to spin this angle.

Personally I'm not "ok with losing".

But overall, I feel that there were a lot of positives to take away from this game. We don't need to walk away from this game with our heads down, the team went all out, played a damn good game, and lost. Sometimes you can put forth a great effort and still lose.

I'm not ok with losing, I'm simply proud of the overall effort I saw today. They are two completely separate things, don't confuse the two.
Thank You Matty...your right on.

Now, granted I am younger, too young to have witnessed the Redskins when they were great, but that does not mean as a result I am willing to settle for mediocrity.

I was there to boo Heath Shuler off the field, I was there calling for Norvs head, I was there to realize that Patrick Ramsey wasn't our QB of the future, I was there to curse Dan Snyder for trying to buy a championship by picking up overrated/overpaid over the hill players, I was there to see the likes of Deion Sanders where a Redskins uniform.

And not only have I had plenty to criticize, but I have seen mediocrity through my entire fanhood....and someone believes they are more frustrated then I am?

My father teased my last week saying I was on the verge of tears as a sulked walking through the parking lot of FedEx, and to be quite truthful I was. I have been a diehard Kool Aid drinking Redskins fan my whole life, and have seen nothing better then mediocrity. Hell most the Skins teams I have cheered for over the years have down right sucked ass.

And then, something incredible happened, Joe Gibbs (the legendary coach my father always told me of) came back to my beloved franchise, and for the first time in my 21 years I see a team that is on the brink of being a dynamic competitor, and dare I say a dynasty. With the likes of Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Cooley, Moss, Randel El, Mike Sellers, Sean Taylor, Landry, MacIntosh, Montgomery, Carter.... this team could be very very very good very very soon.

Was todays loss upsetting, of course it is any fan with burgundy and gold coursing through their veins is disgusted seeing the likes of TO dunking a football through the goalposts after tearing up your crippled secondary. In fact, half an hour after the game was over I was still trembling from the intense frustration of what I witnessed.

But if you cannot see that JC's effort today was a glimpse of a bright bright future for the Washington Redskins, then you have simply been jaded by the mediocrity we have become accustomed to. I see the light at the end of the tunnel, its a little ways off, but it is steadily growing brighter. And you know what? For the first time in my life, after witnessing a heart wrenching loss to our most hated rival I can hold my head high and wear my Jersey tomorrow with pride, and that makes all the woes Ive witnessed over the years 100% worth it. Long live Jason Campbell. HAIL!
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Thank You Matty...your right on.

Now, granted I am younger, too young to have witnessed the Redskins when they were great, but that does not mean as a result I am willing to settle for mediocrity.

I was there to boo Heath Shuler off the field, I was there calling for Norvs head, I was there to realize that Pat Ramsey wasn't our QB of the future, I was there to curse Dan Snyder for trying to buy a championship by picking up overrated/overpaid over the hill players, I was there to see the likes of Deion Sanders where a Redskins uniform.

And not only have I had plenty to criticize, but I have seen mediocrity through my entire fanhood....and someone believes they are more frustrated then I am?

My father teased my last week saying I was on the verge of tears as a sulked walking through the parking lot of FedEx, and to be quite truthful I was. I have been a diehard Kool Aid drinking Redskins fan my whole life, and have seen nothing better then mediocrity. Hell most the Skins teams I have cheered for over the years have down right sucked ass.

And then, something incredible happened, Joe Gibbs (the legendary coach my father always told me of) came back to my beloved franchise, and for the first time in my 21 years I see a team that is on the brink of being a dynamic competitor, and dare I say a dynasty. With the likes of Jason Campbell, Clinton Portis, Cooley, Moss, Randel El, Mike Sellers, Sean Taylor, Landry, MacIntosh, Montgomery, Carter.... this team could be very very very good very very soon.

Was todays loss upseting, of course it is any fan with burgandy and gold coursing through their veins is disgusted seeing the likes of TO dunking a football through the goalposts after tearing up your crippled secondary. In fact, half an hour after the game was over I was still trembling from the intense frustration of what I witnessed.

But if you cannot see that JC's effort today was a glimpse of a bright bright future for the Washington Redskins, then you have simply been jaded by the mediocrity we have become accustomed to. I see the light at the end of the tunnel, its a little ways off, but it is steadily growing brighter. And you know what? For the first time in my life, after witnessing a heart wrenching loss to our most hated rival I can hang my head high and wear my Jersey tomorrow with pride, and that makes all the woes Ive witnessed over the years 100% worth it. Long live Jason Cambell. HAIL!
Great, great post. Hail. That's all I have to say about that.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:37 AM   #14
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Total agreement here. Having been a Skins fan since the early 80s, it amazes me how jaded Skins fans nowadays are. Mediocrity and losing "close games" are now acceptable?

This is Dallas...the ultimate enemy of any Redskin fan. Losing to them is NEVER a good loss...NEVER a moral victory. There's no such thing. This team has now lost two straight games in disappointing finishes to two hated rivals...and people are pleased??? Throw in the NYG loss from earlier this season and you're looking at 3 games the Redskins should have won. They're also 5-5 now in the WC game with difficult games ahead. Losing playoff position is ok too??

Yes there were injuries and other factors...yes they went into Dallas and lost a close game. But they still lost a very winnable game. I guess you all loved seeing Romo's silly, &%$@-eating grin over and over splashed on Fox. I guess it's ok to see TO running wild and mugging it up for the crowd at our expense since it's a MORAL victory...

Man...times have changed...I'm so mad I want to go throw a brick...no, a wheelbarrow full of bricks at anything with a Dallas star on it...and some folks here are ok with losing. Didn't used to be that way.
I'm damn sure not happy with a loss but face it,as bad as losing sux you have to be happy with JC.

Not going for it on 4th and 1 leaves a taste in your mouth tho.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:40 AM   #15
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Wow. JC looked like a first round pick should. That interception was under duress, on the move, across his body and Aikman said that Randle El should have been running a flatter rout. All you can ask is to have a chance to win it in the end. We did. Missing ST was huge. HUGE. No way is that the same game as if he was playing. No way.
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