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Old 12-05-2007, 12:07 AM   #46
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To be honest I would like us to make a run at Bernard Berrian at reciever or take Early Doucet in the 2nd round if available.

For the draft I would like Glenn Dorsey from LSU to be our DT and in free agency pickup Berrian, Briggs or Dansby, and if we have enough money DeAngelo Hall, or Asante Samuel.
Gee, I wonder if you're an LSU fan. Dorsey will be a top 3 pick, so we'd have to trade up to get him. Doucett is a great talent and at worst a 2nd rounder despite the injuries. Berrian will probably get a nice contract from someone, but in my opinion has only shown flashes. Briggs will draw a huge contract, and throw in either Hall or Samuel, and I have no idea where that money will come from. Dansby could maybe be had. IMO we need to sacrifice quality for quantity. We are aging and injured right now and don't have much quality depth at a lot of key positions. Deeper and younger.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:16 PM   #47
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I agree that we're not going to the playoffs. In fact, the way we're playing, it looks like our draft pick is getting higher and higher. So, my decisions will be based on having at the highest the number 15 pick, and I'll try not to forget our cap situation and sign Randy Moss, Justin Smith, Asante Samuel, and all the other big $$$ FAs

QB: It's pretty clear to me that we should build around Campbell. I wish we had gotten rid of Brunell when he had some value and perhaps gotten a late round pick, but we didn't. It would cost $3.1 mil to cut him now, so I'd wait another year when it will only cost $1 mil, and hopefully, he'd retire before then. I want to save the cap hit for unloading BLoyd and possibly a blockbuster trade. Todd Collins' contract is up, so let him go. Draft a QB late in the draft. USC's John David Booty could drop a lot and be a steal late. 4th or 5th round?

RB: Last year, I didn't want to trade Ladell Betts, but given his performance this year, that's a regret. With as few carries he's had, he still manages to aggravate me by running right into his blockers or fumbling. Seeing as we just gave him an extension and no other team would take CP off our hands. We may as well just stay put. Our depth at RB is pretty good except at FB. We've felt it since Big Mike went down, so I'd draft Jacob Hester from LSU in the 5th or 6th round. He's a hoss. The Gators lost to the Tigers this year because they couldn't stop Hester from converting 1st downs or getting into the end zone. Lord knows we need a back like that.

TE: Cooley has continued to play at pro bowl level. Todd Yoder has been a nice acquisition. He's made a few big time catches and is tough to bring down. Hopefully, Tyler Ecker can improve, but I'd keep him since he's young. Kozlowski can hit the road again, and we can snag a nice blocking TE in FA, so Cooley can split out more. Chicago's John Gilmore would be a nice fit. He's 6-5 and solid in pass protection.

WR: Here's where I think we need to make moves and allow the front office to roll the dice on more time. This year's draft is pretty weak at WR, and I think we need to revamp the corp. First thing's first, Brandon Lloyd's out the door, and I think Daniel Snyder should literally throw him out a la Uncle Phil & Jazz from the Fresh Prince.

Now that that's done and we have to pay the excruciating $7.167 mil, we don't have a lot of wiggle room, but I think we could create some if we trade/restructure with Santana Moss. He's hurt too often, drops too many balls, isn't the big play receiver we had hoped for, and basically regressed to all the negatives the Jets had against him when they traded him. So who do we trade him to? The Cards. Rumor is Larry Fitzgerald wants out. Hopefully, they don't make the playoffs, and that remains the case. Maybe, I'm dreaming, but I think Arizona might take Santana and say a 3rd or 4th. Fitzgerald's worth it. He's young, a playmaker, and a taller target than any of our receivers besides Mix.

Speaking of, I keep Mix and try to make him a red zone target. ARE stays because he's stepped up his game and early in the year proved he can be a decent #2. Even if that's not the case, I think Reche Caldwell can be. I'd also like to find a way to keep James Thrash. Sadly, I think Keenan will retire. If not, I'd want to re-sign him.

OL: Depending on who is left when we pick in the first round, it might be smart to draft an OT. That wouldn't be my target, but I think you should always pick the best player on the board according to need. I'm think we'll probably be around the 10th pick, and that leaves some great players. Jake Long will be gone by the time we pick, but should some of my other 1st round targets that haven't been mentioned yet not be available, Ryan Clady should still be around, and I'd draft him. He's 6-6, athletic, stones pass rushers, and is an aggressive run blocker. Given where I think we'll be in the draft, there's only two other guys I have ahead of him. Michael Oher from Ole Miss could be a nice snag if he drops to the second. He can play tackle and guard. I think he'd be good insurance should Jansen go down again or continue to regress. I definitely think the OL should be addressed during the draft. I'd keep Pete Kendall, but I think he wants a bigger contract. So, if Seattle's Floyd Womack could be had for less, I'd sign him instead to hold us over until the draft picks come around. Between Todd Wade and Jason Fabini, I'd rather get rid of Wade. Stephon Heyer has been a better backup than him. I wouldn't be against sending Fabini packing either and testing the FA market or the draft. I do think we need to get younger at the OL.

K: I'm fine with Suisham, but we should bring someone in again during pre-season to push him.

P: Maybe, Frost will get out of this slump, but I'm tempted to go after Todd Sauerbrun in free agency, maybe even Jeff Feagles.

LB: I'm really glad we didn't trade away Rocky McIntosh and picked up London Fletcher in free agency. I think H.B. Blades will move into the ILB role as London ages, but nobody is being groomed to be strong side LB. I hope Marcus Washington can return 100%, but he's definitely getting up there in age and his body hasn't been holding up like it used to. It'd be nice to go after Danzby, but I spent all the Skins' money on his teammate: Larry Fitzgerald with my blockbuster trade.

I think there's a slew of good young guys that can be had in the middle rounds of the draft. Whichever pick we don't trade the 3rd or 4th, it'd be nice if FSU's Geno Hayes is still around. He fast and a sure tackler. Or Nebraska's Bo Ruud, who is the brother of Tampa Bay's Barrett Ruud and supposedly a better prospect. Louisville's Malik Jackson has been impressive this year and could still be around. Bryan Smith from McNeese state is also intriguing. He runs a 4.59 40 and recorded a school record 13.5 sacks. I'd like to give any of these guys a shot at replacing Marcus Washington.

So, Khary Campbell can go, and Randall Godfrey will probably retire.

DE: Andre Carter has continued to improve at his role in the defense. Chris Wilson has surprised and proven himself as a nice pass rush guy. Philip Daniels has played pretty well for us too. It'd be relatively cheap to let him go this year. Maybe, he'll restructure for less. I think Philip would be better in a supporting role at this point though. It'd be interesting to see how much Jax's Paul Spicer could be had for. He's a hard worker who plays with a mean streak. I know he gets after the QB. I'm not sure about his run support though. He's 32. I just think he'd be a good vet to have in the mix. DE should be addressed in the draft. I'd like Calais Campbell in the first round, but not as much as I'd like another guy. If Calais was still on the board when we pick, it might even be wise to trade down and pick up some more picks and still get my guy with our first round pick. There's some pretty good DEs who could be had later in the first or second round.

CB: I know we trying to trade Shawn Springs last offseason, but I say we keep him at this point. He's cleary our best CB. Let him finish out his career here. Maybe, we could even bring in his former teammate Marcus Trufant to solidify our secondary a bit. I don't think Carlos Rogers will be firing on all cylinders for a while, and Smoot keeps getting dinged up. I cringe whenever Eubanks or Torrence is back there. Trying another FA vet would be the solution here, as the draft doesn't have that many good CBs again.

S: Laron Landry stays at SS, and with the Washington Redskins' first pick in the 2008 NFL draft, they have selected Kenny Philips from the U. As much as it's eerie and sad, it's the smart pick. Our defense was built around Sean Taylor's ball-hawking, hard hitting ability. Kenny Phillips will hopefully come close to that. He's definitely way closer than Reed Doughty or Pierson Prielou, who I'd keep for depth. I think Philips should be our main priority. Obviously, I don't think the defense should be built around him right away. Some adjustments should be made while he matures as a player, but to get to where as good as our defense was looking early in the season, I think Kenny's a bigger help than Calais Campbell would be.

So, my summary:

Subtractions
Santana Moss
Pete Kendall (maybe)
Kennan McCardell
Todd Collins
Brian Kozlowksi
Derrick Frost
Todd Wade
Jason Fabini
Khary Campbell
Randall Godfrey
Philip Daniels (maybe)
Mike Espy
Jimmy Farris
David Macklin

Major Additions
Larry Fitzgerald
Marcus Trufant
Todd Sauerbrun
Paul Spicer
Kenny Philips (dependent upon what we do in the first)
Calais Campbell (dependent upon what we do in the first)
Ryan Clady (If Calais & Kenny are gone)
Michael Oher (dependent upon what we do in the first)
John David Booty
Jacob Hester
John Gilmore
Floyd Womack (maybe)
3rd or 4th round OLB Draft Prospect

Sign me up, Danny! Let's see what happens.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:30 PM   #48
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Nice post JB. Michael Oher incidentally is the subject of Michael Lewis' book "The Blind Side" about the evolution of the LT position.

Also, isn't Kendall signed through next year?
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:47 PM   #49
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Yeah Kendall signed for 2 years
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:59 PM   #50
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I haven't followed the Cards much, but why would Fitzgerald be so anxious to get out of Arizona? I'd love to have him, but if the Cards traded him for Moss and a 3rd or 4th they'd be out of their minds. I guess he'd be looking to get into Dan's checkbook and that would be the motivation for forcing his hand in AZ? I just can't see it happening, is this a legitimate possibility?
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:31 PM   #51
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I know we extended Pete Kendall's contract, but I thought the big issue with him in New York was that he wanted a long term deal, and they weren't willing to give him one. He's not making a whole lot for his value here. We only extended him a year, so I thought he'd want to test the FA waters. If not, keep him for his final year, he's replaced Dockery excellently.

It looks like there's some pretty good OL prospects this year in the draft. I hope we draft one.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:36 PM   #52
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Well Fitzgerald isn't likely to want to come here. Supposedly he wants out because he doesn't feel he fits in Whis/Grimm's offense...which isn't all that different from ours. So...

As for trading Moss, I think if we were to do that Minnesota would be a perfect place for him.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:37 PM   #53
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I haven't followed the Cards much, but why would Fitzgerald be so anxious to get out of Arizona? I'd love to have him, but if the Cards traded him for Moss and a 3rd or 4th they'd be out of their minds. I guess he'd be looking to get into Dan's checkbook and that would be the motivation for forcing his hand in AZ? I just can't see it happening, is this a legitimate possibility?
W/the Skins it always if, but I would hope we wouldn't do that deal. I know Moss has had his issues, but he still plays w/heart & has improved as the year's gone on. I would rather add a cheaper vet or draft a big wr no higher than the 2nd round.

Fitzgerald will be looking for huge $ if he wants out of AZ, like at least $20mil in bonus.
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I know we extended Pete Kendall's contract, but I thought the big issue with him in New York was that he wanted a long term deal, and they weren't willing to give him one. He's not making a whole lot for his value here. We only extended him a year, so I thought he'd want to test the FA waters. If not, keep him for his final year, he's replaced Dockery excellently.

It looks like there's some pretty good OL prospects this year in the draft. I hope we draft one.
He didn't want a long term deal from NY. His issue was he claimed the Jets renegged on a $1M bonus they promised him.

The Skins gave him a 2 year deal worth $4.5M and a $1.5M bonus.
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I haven't followed the Cards much, but why would Fitzgerald be so anxious to get out of Arizona? I'd love to have him, but if the Cards traded him for Moss and a 3rd or 4th they'd be out of their minds. I guess he'd be looking to get into Dan's checkbook and that would be the motivation for forcing his hand in AZ? I just can't see it happening, is this a legitimate possibility?
I think the big money in DC is an attraction, but apparently before last year's draft there was talk of a Vikings/ Cards swap: Troy Williamson and their #7 pick for Larry.

It obviously didn't go down, and since then, there's been speculation on many boards about a trade. Even fans in the big D want to go after him.

I guess when the Cards were entertaining offers, they wanted a pretty hefty price tag on him, but the way I see it. Santana Moss is twice as good as Troy Williamson, so a third round pick would be nice thrown into the mix. They might bite. I'd seriously think long and hard if they wanted Santana and a #2. But like I said in my post, he might be happier now, seeing how well the Cards are doing.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:58 PM   #56
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My short list:

-Cut Lloyd (I know it's a given, I just can't wait for it to happen)

-Upgrade the WR corps. Moss is injured too often to be counted on as a #1. I would bring back Caldwell and McCardell (if he wants to play again).

-Replace Sean Taylor. Huge task I know, but I'm not convinced that we have his replacement on the roster currently.

-Keep the staff together for one more season. Injuries, a first year starter at QB, and now Taylor's death have been major obstacles this season. I'm not totally absolving the coaches, but I do think that they have faced some pretty major hurdles this season. Snyder won't fire Gibbs... Gibbs pretty much controls his own destiny here.

-Overall... minimize any changes. No need to panic and go on a free agent spending spree, and there's also no need to panic and blow up the roster.
Generally agree but I'm almost in the panic-ing blow up the roster thing. By this time next year if we are about the same w/ Gibbs and Co. i'll be blowing this team up (most of it). I've been patient for 3.75 years.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:21 PM   #57
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I've said this many times before, but I feel like it should be said again:
In my opinion, patience in the NFL isn't 3 or 5 years. Having patience means waiting 10 years or more.

Imagine a team in dire straits: no depth and all aging veterans -- basically starting from scratch. If an entire roster has to be trashed, then everyone must be drafted or signed through free agency. So, each team has 7 draft picks per year, and it usually takes about 3 years for the average draft pick to mature to starting NFL caliber. That means -- if the drafting is flawless -- in about 3 or 4 years, 14 players could be starting that were drafted. Pickup the other 8 guys through FA, and you have your starting 22 (don't even talk about depth, yet). Of course, you could pick up undrafted guys, and sign people off of practice squads -- but now you're really reaching beyond the realm of reality.

Everyone wants success in a few years, but it just isn't realistic for a team with many needs. You'd have to hit on every draft pick, and they'd all have to develop well, and get along together as a team.

Teams that go from losing to playoff contenders in just a few years, usually have very few problems to correct.

I don't necessarily think we have too many problems to fix in a few years -- we've already begun the improvement process, IMO. With a few guys here and there, and a season with no injuries, we could go all the way.

Like Matty said, "Overall... minimize any changes." We need stability. The coaches should come up with a conservative 5 year plan, and a 10 year plan. They should strive to draft a couple good guys every year (any more is just gravy), and try to build a TEAM. Then they should stick to their plan, regardless of the media or fan opinion. It's hard, and it probably won't happen, but that is what I'd like to see: commitment to a long-term, well defined plan.
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I've said this many times before, but I feel like it should be said again:
In my opinion, patience in the NFL isn't 3 or 5 years. Having patience means waiting 10 years or more.

Imagine a team in dire straits: no depth and all aging veterans -- basically starting from scratch. If an entire roster has to be trashed, then everyone must be drafted or signed through free agency. So, each team has 7 draft picks per year, and it usually takes about 3 years for the average draft pick to mature to starting NFL caliber. That means -- if the drafting is flawless -- in about 3 or 4 years, 14 players could be starting that were drafted. Pickup the other 8 guys through FA, and you have your starting 22 (don't even talk about depth, yet). Of course, you could pick up undrafted guys, and sign people off of practice squads -- but now you're really reaching beyond the realm of reality.

Everyone wants success in a few years, but it just isn't realistic for a team with many needs. You'd have to hit on every draft pick, and they'd all have to develop well, and get along together as a team.

Teams that go from losing to playoff contenders in just a few years, usually have very few problems to correct.

I don't necessarily think we have too many problems to fix in a few years -- we've already begun the improvement process, IMO. With a few guys here and there, and a season with no injuries, we could go all the way.

Like Matty said, "Overall... minimize any changes." We need stability. The coaches should come up with a conservative 5 year plan, and a 10 year plan. They should strive to draft a couple good guys every year (any more is just gravy), and try to build a TEAM. Then they should stick to their plan, regardless of the media or fan opinion. It's hard, and it probably won't happen, but that is what I'd like to see: commitment to a long-term, well defined plan.
What NFL have you been watching? The NFL I watch has the Saints go from 3-13 to 13-3.. The NFL I watch has been a league with new teams at the top almost yearly.. The NFL I watch has had the Ravens, Panthers, Bears, Rams, Pats, Seahawks, etc. go from obscurity to the Super Bowl almost overnight.. A 10 year plan??
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What NFL have you been watching? The NFL I watch has the Saints go from 3-13 to 13-3.. The NFL I watch has been a league with new teams at the top almost yearly.. The NFL I watch has had the Ravens, Panthers, Bears, Rams, Pats, Seahawks, etc. go from obscurity to the Super Bowl almost overnight.. A 10 year plan??
If you read my post, you'll notice that I said the teams who go from losing to playoff contenders overnight usually only have a few needs.

Also, just because a team turns it around for 1 year, doesn't mean they turned the corner, or are a playoff contender. The Saints, Ravens, Panthers, Bears, and Rams are all good examples of that. Personally, I don't think any of those teams are in much better position than we are. I don't have any aspirations to be like them. After all, we made the playoffs in 2005 -- does that mean we have turned the corner? Absolutely not.

I would rather be like the Pats, Chargers, or Steelers. They have lots of young talent, and they are patient.
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If you read my post, you'll notice that I said the teams who go from losing to playoff contenders overnight usually only have a few needs.

Also, just because a team turns it around for 1 year, doesn't mean they turned the corner, or are a playoff contender. The Saints, Ravens, Panthers, Bears, and Rams are all good examples of that. Personally, I don't think any of those teams are in much better position than we are. I don't have any aspirations to be like them. After all, we made the playoffs in 2005 -- does that mean we have turned the corner? Absolutely not.

I would rather be like the Pats, Chargers, or Steelers. They have lots of young talent, and they are patient.
And none of them took 10 years to be good..
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