Overall Draft Grade for the Redskins

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

From a value standpoint, I think we got an A for day 1 and a B- for day 2. I liked how we repeatedly traded down for more picks. I also like that our offense is loaded at the skill positions. But, I am nervous about the lack of depth along the D-line and O-line. I'd give us a B+ for value and a B/B- for filling perceived needs.

Well we supposedly signed four unrestricted free agent OL and two DL. Let's see who they are first. But even still, if we're talking about depth. That's not bad. That's basically how we got Wilson (to some extent), Heyer, and Alexander last year. Not to mention Marshall and Pierce in previous years

[skinsfan69]

I gave it a C. I just didn't see the need to get 2 wr's at the top. For some reason this FO has a hard on for WR's and I just don't understand why. They show it time and time again. First getting Lloyd and ARE at the same time and now this. Why couldn't we have drafted Merling, Kelly or Thomas and Davis?? That way you take care of a HUGE need a DE plus you add a young wr. I didn't have a problem with Davis cause he could be a factor in the red zone. I like the 3rd round pick getting a guard cause we needed a young guy in the mix.

[The Goat]

Value Grade: A+ (possibly the highest value of all 32 teams)

Needs Grade: B- (at this point we have the exact same d-line as 07, with one high potential addition on the o-line)

Overall: A-/B+ depending on what happens this season. If some combination of injuries occur between Kendell, RT, and JJ a lot of fans and analysts will be saying "how in the hell could Washington not address the line w/ all of FA and draft to work with." If the line stays healthy and our offense explodes like it should now the FO will be hailed as geniuses.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Value Grade: A+ (possibly the highest value of all 32 teams)

Needs Grade: B- (at this point we have the exact same d-line as 07, with one high potential addition on the o-line)

Overall: A-/B+ depending on what happens this season. If some combination of injuries occur between Kendell, RT, and JJ a lot of fans and analysts will be saying "how in the hell could Washington not address the line w/ all of FA and draft to work with." If the line stays healthy and our offense explodes like it should now the FO will be hailed as geniuses.

But what if Moss and ARE had gotten hurt? Like they did this past year

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But what if Moss and ARE had gotten hurt? Like they did this past year

Or go half the year with no TDs again

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But what if Moss and ARE had gotten hurt? Like they did this past year

You're right. I suppose we had more needs, if nothing else for depth, than we did picks. Oh well, that puts us in company w/ just about every other team in the league.

[DC52]

WOW!!!

No wonder the redskins never draft: we suck at it. I'll admit Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were decent picks but what the heck do we need Fred Davis for we have Cooley and Yoder (who makes some pretty good catches in the clutch). We should have pick a D-lineman instead of Davis (Groves, Campbell, Thomas, Jones and Ellis were still availible). We had depth issues at linebacker that were not addressed. We could have gotten Marcus Howard, who is versitile enough to play linebacker and defensive end (almost an exact clone of Marcus Washington) but instead we trade away our fifth round pick and Indy snags him. Why would we go with Chad Rinehart of N. Iowa when Mike McGlynn was still availible. McGlynn brings more experience from playing better opponents in the Big East than Rinehart who played in some community college division at Northern Iowa. We wasted a pick on a punter when Derrick Frost did a tremendous job this season. I agree with the selection of Colt Brennan. We definately could use a young backup quarterback (especially one like Brennan who, unlike Campbell doesn't throw late game interceptions that causes us to lose).

Overall the draft was very pathetic and disappointing and I rate it as a D only because of the selections of Thomas, Kelly and Brennan.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DC52

WOW!!!

No wonder the redskins never draft: we suck at it. I'll admit Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were decent picks but what the heck do we need Fred Davis for we have Cooley and Yoder (who makes some pretty good catches in the clutch). We should have pick a D-lineman instead of Davis (Groves, Campbell, Thomas, Jones and Ellis were still availible). We had depth issues at linebacker that were not addressed. We could have gotten Marcus Howard, who is versitile enough to play linebacker and defensive end (almost an exact clone of Marcus Washington) but instead we trade away our fifth round pick and Indy snags him. Why would we go with Chad Rinehart of N. Iowa when Mike McGlynn was still availible. McGlynn brings more experience from playing better opponents in the Big East than Rinehart who played in some community college division at Northern Iowa. We wasted a pick on a punter when Derrick Frost did a tremendous job this season. I agree with the selection of Colt Brennan. We definately could use a young backup quarterback (especially one like Brennan who, unlike Campbell doesn't throw late game interceptions that causes us to lose).

Overall the draft was very pathetic and disappointing and I rate it as a D only because of the selections of Thomas, Kelly and Brennan.

There are so many flaws with this argument that it's not worth wasting time responding to, so I hope no one does.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are so many flaws with this argument that it's not worth wasting time responding to, so I hope no one does.

DC52 does bring up some valid points.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

DC52 does bring up some valid points.

Fine. Let's take a look at some of the flaws in his argument

No wonder the redskins never draft: we suck at it.

Yeah we have a history of making such horrible decisioins when we draft. Even the biggest haters know that's not true

I'll admit Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were decent picks but what the heck do we need Fred Davis for we have Cooley and Yoder (who makes some pretty good catches in the clutch).

OK, so then what do we need Thomas and Kelly for if we have Moss, El, Thrash, Mix? Which is it? I agree Fred Davis was a bit of a head scratcher but hardly a terrible pick. As for picking DEs, maybe but at that point we don't take one just to take one.

We had depth issues at linebacker that were not addressed. We could have gotten Marcus Howard, who is versitile enough to play linebacker and defensive end (almost an exact clone of Marcus Washington) but instead we trade away our fifth round pick and Indy snags him.

We had depth issues at several positions, and addressed plenty of them. Marcus Howard is fine, but we have Chris Wilson who is versatile enough to play both positions.

Why would we go with Chad Rinehart of N. Iowa when Mike McGlynn was still availible. McGlynn brings more experience from playing better opponents in the Big East than Rinehart who played in some community college division at Northern Iowa.

McGlynn's better because he's from a bigger program?

We wasted a pick on a punter when Derrick Frost did a tremendous job this season.

Yeah I think the pick was probably a bit high, but Frost was hardly tremendous

I agree with the selection of Colt Brennan. We definately could use a young backup quarterback (especially one like Brennan who, unlike Campbell doesn't throw late game interceptions that causes us to lose).

And the irony is he tops it all off by praising the Brennan move while taking a shot at Campbell.

This draft wasn't perfect, but awful?? No way

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Fine. Let's take a look at some of the flaws in his argument



Yeah we have a history of making such horrible decisioins when we draft. Even the biggest haters know that's not true



OK, so then what do we need Thomas and Kelly for if we have Moss, El, Thrash, Mix? Which is it? I agree Fred Davis was a bit of a head scratcher but hardly a terrible pick. As for picking DEs, maybe but at that point we don't take one just to take one.



We had depth issues at several positions, and addressed plenty of them. Marcus Howard is fine, but we have Chris Wilson who is versatile enough to play both positions.



McGlynn's better because he's from a bigger program?



Yeah I think the pick was probably a bit high, but Frost was hardly tremendous



And the irony is he tops it all off by praising the Brennan move while taking a shot at Campbell.

This draft wasn't perfect, but awful?? No way

Let me ask you this. Do you think Pioli of NE, or Polian of Indy would offer basically 2 #1's for Chad Johnson? Or draft 2 young wr's back to back when you've already got a lot of $ tied up in two other guys? Or draft a TE in the second round when you've already got a pro bowl TE and you have a major need at DE? And Brennan was just a waste. No way do you even waste time on him. I mean some of these moves Vinny is making really is making me wonder. I don't think we had an awful draft. I just think it could've been so much better.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

DC52 does bring up some valid points.

like what?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

like what?

I'm OK with drafting Davis if they think he's going to be a good player. From what I saw he sure looked good at USC. But let's be real. First, this guy is not going to be an everydown player for us. With that pick we could've perhaps got a DE to walk in and start right away. And two we've already got pro bowl TE. So that limits Davis' playing time. I like the player but I just don't see him being a need for us. Makes no sense.

[DC52]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are so many flaws with this argument that it's not worth wasting time responding to, so I hope no one does.

You can't respond because you have NO arguement. I nailed this draft summary and you know it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DC52

WOW!!!

No wonder the redskins never draft: we suck at it. I'll admit Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were decent picks but what the heck do we need Fred Davis for we have Cooley and Yoder (who makes some pretty good catches in the clutch). We should have pick a D-lineman instead of Davis (Groves, Campbell, Thomas, Jones and Ellis were still availible). We had depth issues at linebacker that were not addressed. We could have gotten Marcus Howard, who is versitile enough to play linebacker and defensive end (almost an exact clone of Marcus Washington) but instead we trade away our fifth round pick and Indy snags him. Why would we go with Chad Rinehart of N. Iowa when Mike McGlynn was still availible. McGlynn brings more experience from playing better opponents in the Big East than Rinehart who played in some community college division at Northern Iowa. We wasted a pick on a punter when Derrick Frost did a tremendous job this season. I agree with the selection of Colt Brennan. We definately could use a young backup quarterback (especially one like Brennan who, unlike Campbell doesn't throw late game interceptions that causes us to lose).

Overall the draft was very pathetic and disappointing and I rate it as a D only because of the selections of Thomas, Kelly and Brennan.

Colt Brennan hasn't played a down in the NFL so we don't know if he will or won't throw late game INT's. If we go by his last performace against Georgia, and the past history of Qb's that play for June Jones, and his performance at the Senior Bowl, then Brennan isn't going to make it past OTA's.