Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

[12thMan]

Just heard John Clayton on ESPN. He said talks are underway and we are moving quickly to get Taylor; said he would be surprised if it didn't happen.

It's really a no brainer for both sides. Perhaps a number 2 for JT.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Just heard John Clayton on ESPN. He said talks are underway and we are moving quickly to get Taylor; said he would be surprised if it didn't happen.

It's really a no brainer for both sides. Perhaps a number 2 for JT.

I'm fine with a 2nd rounder.

Hopefully we can re-work his deal to make it a bit more cap friendly.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm fine with a 2nd rounder.

Hopefully we can re-work his deal to make it a bit more cap friendly.

I bet that's the only thing that will keep this from happening. Details. Think about it, if we can get Taylor in here by Monday, he has essentially missed none of training camp.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I bet that's the only thing that will keep this from happening. Details. Think about it, if we can get Taylor in here by Monday, he has essentially missed none of training camp.

Yep and I'm sure that's part of the reason they want to get something done quickly.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm fine with a 2nd rounder.

Hopefully we can re-work his deal to make it a bit more cap friendly.

I'm not fine with a second rounder. That's your most valuable (cap-friendly) pick in the entire draft.

I can see the need for Jason Taylor here, but just because Daniels is out doesn't mean it makes anymore sense than it did yesterday. Taylor is an upgrade on Daniels obviously, but where are we going to be when we are ready to compete in a year or two: with Jason Taylor's contract, probably significantly less production, and without the player we would have gotten with that pick.

No one is giving more than a 4th for Taylor, so match the best offer they have, and if they want more, tell them we're interested in other options.

It's a buyer market, so the overcompensation angle is pretty "throwback" of us, and I don't mean that in a good way.

[MTK]

Ok now reports are saying Buzbee was carted off with an injury, WTF?

Daniels Out For Season; Buzbee Goes Down - Redskins Insider

[12thMan]

Clayton had some very good things to say about the Redskins. He said this is a good Redskins team that made the playoffs and they feel they aren't that far away. Good young quarterback, good draft, etc.

I like this move guys.

[Skinny Tee]

Why would we get a good price on Taylor when we are in clear and obvious need for a veteran DE???

I expect to be gouged in under these circumstances where we have no servicable back ups. The Dolphins aren't being played by your nine year old brother in your Madden dynasty season.

We going to be pulling out number 1's and some when it comes to trading for Taylor. That is why this situation is going to suck Dolphin Balls!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Why would we get a good price on Taylor when we are in clear and obvious need for a veteran DE???

I expect to be gouged in under these circumstances where we have no servicable back ups. The Dolphins aren't being played by your nine year old brother in your Madden dynasty season.

We going to be pulling out number 1's and some when it comes to trading for Taylor. That is why this situation is going to suck Dolphin Balls!

I'll bet we get a good deal for Taylor. Remember Taylor doesn't want to be there either. So it's a win-win for both teams. I doubt the Fins will force our hand on this one. We can easily walk away and leave them Taylor and no pick at all.

I think the Dolphins are very eager to get something reasonable done.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'll bet we get a good deal for Taylor. Remember Taylor doesn't want to be there either. So it's a win-win for both teams. I doubt the Fins will force our hand on this one. We can easily walk away and leave them Taylor and no pick at all.

I think the Dolphins are very eager to get something reasonable done.

I agree... I think the Dolphins are eager to get him off their hands and will accept a reasonable offer.

[wolfeskins]

what about that Wilson kid ? i seem to remember him doing good things last season when he was given the chance to play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

what about that Wilson kid ? i seem to remember him doing good things last season when he was given the chance to play.

He's too green and too light to play DE full time.

[mooby]

Wilson can rush the passer, but he's not ready to be a three down defensive end yet. He needs to work on stopping the run better.

As for Taylor, I really don't want to see us trade a first round pick for him. I'd be fine with a third rounder but at this age in his career he's not gonna be a valuable long term player for us. And he needs to rework his cap deal as well. But at least he'll be an adequate replacement for Daniels.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mooby

Wilson can rush the passer, but he's not ready to be a three down defensive end yet. He needs to work on stopping the run better.

As for Taylor, I really don't want to see us trade a first round pick for him. I'd be fine with a third rounder but at this age in his career he's not gonna be a valuable long term player for us. And he needs to rework his cap deal as well. But at least he'll be an adequate replacement for Daniels.

I think he'll be an upgrade over Daniels, he's two years younger, and has been a sack machine throughout his career. Oh, and this guy wants a Super Bowl ring bad too.

[memphisskin]

Smoot also was hurt. Lets trade for Jason Taylor, with us being in need I think if we can get away with just one 1st its a coup for our front office.