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Old 09-10-2008, 06:48 PM   #46
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palin also begged for the money for a bridge to nowhere, got the money, and when it turned into a fiasco, went on to say there was no way that bridge would be built (to save face), but then she kept the 100mill+ that congress gave alaska to get it built.

yeah the bridge was stupid, and she was in favor of it, then stole the f'ing money... what a great reformer!

as far as out of context buster - obama (in the youtube clip) said the comment was in regards to the mccain economic plan, so its not like he didn't explain it (And his response was very good).

on the nuclear front, it's both sides killing it. not allowing re-use of fuel rods (which would make nuclear energy MUCH cheaper), not allowing adaptations for ships (nuclear ships can go farther faster and hold more since fuel isn't weighting them down - cheaper too, even with an expanded crew)... and it's cleaner than basically any other form of energy, almost infinitely scalable (the big problem with solar/wind/etc), and you don't even have any real risk (pebble beds don't meltdown). Its stupid we haven't built new nuke plants since what? 1960 something? but the current laws are completely misguided.
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Old 09-10-2008, 07:04 PM   #47
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I love this youtube thing:

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Old 09-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #48
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this one?
No, this one had a yellow head and his eyes actually rolled.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:08 PM   #49
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Pfft.

This isn't a presidential race, it's a three ring circus.

All this he said, she said, sounds like a bunch of high schoolers running for student body president.

By time the general elections come, party lines are going to be so huge you're going to need a boat to get across it.

I can't wait till the end of this crap.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:47 PM   #50
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The Democratic Party has a whole team of people pouring over tapes and transcripts to find some Republican saying something they can construe as a racist, but now they want to stick to the issues.

It looked to me like the audience in Virginia took it to be a Palin reference based on their reaction. Why would you whoop and cheer for a worn out cliche like that unless you thought it was an attack line.

Also, remember Obama's rationale for not taking public financing? He said he needed the extra cash to deal with the attacks from GOP 527s. Well, the Atlantic Monthly is now reporting that the Obama campaign has told their sympathetic 527s (MoveOn, ACT, etc) to do their worst. They are in absolute meltdown over there.
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The Democratic Party has a whole team of people pouring over tapes and transcripts to find some Republican saying something they can construe as a racist, but now they want to stick to the issues.

It looked to me like the audience in Virginia took it to be a Palin reference based on their reaction. Why would you whoop and cheer for a worn out cliche like that unless you thought it was an attack line.

Also, remember Obama's rationale for not taking public financing? He said he needed the extra cash to deal with the attacks from GOP 527s. Well, the Atlantic Monthly is now reporting that the Obama campaign has told their sympathetic 527s (MoveOn, ACT, etc) to do their worst. They are in absolute meltdown over there.
This happened here in my home area and even peopl there which was interviewed here localy said they took it as a jab at Sarah.
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Old 09-10-2008, 08:58 PM   #52
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palin also begged for the money for a bridge to nowhere, got the money, and when it turned into a fiasco, went on to say there was no way that bridge would be built (to save face), but then she kept the 100mill+ that congress gave alaska to get it built.

yeah the bridge was stupid, and she was in favor of it, then stole the f'ing money... what a great reformer!

as far as out of context buster - obama (in the youtube clip) said the comment was in regards to the mccain economic plan, so its not like he didn't explain it (And his response was very good).

on the nuclear front, it's both sides killing it. not allowing re-use of fuel rods (which would make nuclear energy MUCH cheaper), not allowing adaptations for ships (nuclear ships can go farther faster and hold more since fuel isn't weighting them down - cheaper too, even with an expanded crew)... and it's cleaner than basically any other form of energy, almost infinitely scalable (the big problem with solar/wind/etc), and you don't even have any real risk (pebble beds don't meltdown). Its stupid we haven't built new nuke plants since what? 1960 something? but the current laws are completely misguided.
Sorry but the dems have faught against nuclear energy every chance they get. I'm sure some rep. have also but they are not in the majority.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:23 PM   #53
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“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colourful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article.

» Palin, “So Sambo beat the Bitch!” Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log.
Am I missing sarcasm or an attempt at humor here?

If you're serious about accusing a VP candidate of saying these things, I would come up with a better link than an obscure left-wing blog with "Lucille" the waitress and "people who know her" as the sources for this info.

On the "lipstick on a pig" thing, pure political play. I hope the debates are substantive and not this type of junk.
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Don't these guys have people writing their speeches for them, or at the very least proof read it? They didn't think that maybe that could be spun in any way????

That being said, I have the utmost confidence that the comment was made with no ill intent. This is a case of the right over reacting. But with all the dirt that has been slung by the left, and all the cheap shots, and the propaganda, you can't blame the right for being a little sensitive.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:09 AM   #55
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The Republicans remind me of the bully on the playground that pushes everyone around, but as soon as someone fights back the bully runs and tells the teacher.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:12 AM   #56
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The Republicans remind me of the bully on the playground that pushes everyone around, but as soon as someone fights back the bully runs and tells the teacher.

Hey, that's not fair...I'm telling!!!
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:16 AM   #57
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The Republicans remind me of the bully on the playground that pushes everyone around, but as soon as someone fights back the bully runs and tells the teacher.
That's kind of funny, I feel it's the exact opposite. The Dems can throw whatever they want, and use massive propoganda to their advantage (it's everywhere, look at NBC and ABC...look at ESPN pushing obama but not even inviting McCain for example...shit, they even fight each other, clinton vs obama) they can throw whatever mud they want, and whenever someone fights back a little or sees something else in a comment, they stand up and go "what???" The Dems invented this process, not the republicans. So your comment would be right as long as you switch Republicans with Democrats.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:20 AM   #58
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Right.

Meanwhile the right is having a cow over the lipstick on a pig comment.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:24 AM   #59
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Right.

Meanwhile the right is having a cow over the lipstick on a pig comment.
It's a reaction to the tons of crap that has been slung. If you noticed, I do agree the comment is an overreaction from the right. You can't throw crap for this many years and expect the right to just sit there.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:33 AM   #60
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What crap has Obama himself slung?
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