Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs Steelers)

[redsk1]

Jim Zorn: No game plan for LB blitzes? No misdirection? No originality.

JC: 2 primetime games and 2 bad performances

Carlos Rogers: Is there anything else to say, catch the ball.

Chris Horton: He can play, we've got something there.

Offensive Unit: I won't say the Q word, but it seemed close to not caring too much.

Fed Ex: The most embarrassed I've been as a Skins Fan in a while. At home for MNF, 2 good teams and Steelers fans make up 25-30k in the house.

[EternalEnigma21]

Gotta agree with all of that. I thought the D played really well, though. 'Los dropped an int but had a good game considering how much he was thrown at.

Our D couldn't get off the field to save their lives and gave the offense several opportunities to make something happen. Pass protection was our biggest shortcoming. Big adjustments need to be made there.

If it weren't for a blocked punt and a BS PI call the game really wouldve taken on a more favorable landscape. We had to abandon the run and they teed off on Campbell all night. I'm just glad he's not hurt.

Also casey rabach should be sodomized with a pinecone for every committed penalty. He's killing us as bad as Jansens piss poor pass protection.

[GTripp0012]

You do want to have this game right before the bye week, because it gives your staff plenty of times to get things corrected.

The Steelers' front seven is unbelievable. I've never seen a group that is so good at getting pressure on the QB AND can stay in it's run gaps.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You do want to have this game right before the bye week, because it gives your staff plenty of times to get things corrected.

The Steelers' front seven is unbelievable. I've never seen a group that is so good at getting pressure on the QB AND can stay in it's run gaps.

Sorry but I'm not ready to call these guys the 85 Bears. They're good but c'mon. We got the ball twice deep in Pitt's territory and couldn't even get a first down. I think that's more of our offense being inept than them being unbelievable.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sorry but I'm not ready to call these guys the 85 Bears. They're good but c'mon. We got the ball twice deep in Pitt's territory and couldn't even get a first down. I think that's more of our offense being inept than them being unbelievable.

No doubt. The Steelers are good but let's not go overboard. They're not that great. The Eagles and Giants beat them. The Steelers were on the road and stomped our butts at our home field. A good team rarely let's that happen. We've done it 2 times in a row. We've got decent team, i do believe, but we haven't taken that next step. We've still got 7 games to do that.

[SirClintonPortis]

My thoughts.
I think I saw way too many 3 to 4 wide receiver sets. The 'Skins should have focused on running the ball first so that the blitzers have to chase Portis and wear them down...
Also, this further shows there is huge need for a productive 3rd wide receiver on the team.
Also, what was up with the ad nauseum blitizing? The damage from the pass to Moore could have been minimized if linebackers were dropped back.

[#56fanatic]

our Fans are so fragile. We got man handled last night, by a very good team. We were tired, beat up and maybe looking to the bye week. The good news is, we were 6-2 in the first half after losing the 1st game. We go 6-2 the second half, thats 12-4!!

To the game, seriously....Carlos has to be tought how to catch the freaking ball. He drops way too many easy int's. I guess that why he isn't a WR, but he has to make that play. That would put us up 13-3, instead of getting the punt blocked and down 10-6. I think its a different game at that point.

2nd, dont give Zorn crap for being Zorn. You loved it when we were winning games and us un-conventional game calling, so dont rag him if we lose. That is the way he is and they way he is going to be win or lose. At this point, starting 6-2 first 8 games, I'll trust him.

3rd - Jon Jansen. funny how people want him in the line up when he is playing awesome the first half of the season. He was not the only one getting beat last night. Samuels was getting beat with speed rush on the outside. Thomas was beat, Rock Cartright was hideous on his blocking attempt. Have you forgotten that our strength is running the ball. We didn't do that last night, fell behind on a couple of plays and basically played into the steelers hands. I think Jansen has played pretty good this year. They confused us, they out muscled us.

Hey, we lost the game. I think we needed the break. I dont think there is any shame in losing to the Steelers, they are a VERY good football team. We are sitting 6-3 right now. Tell me who realistically thought we would have been 6-2 at half way? i sure didn't.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

our Fans are so fragile. We got man handled last night, by a very good team. We were tired, beat up and maybe looking to the bye week. The good news is, we were 6-2 in the first half after losing the 1st game. We go 6-2 the second half, thats 12-4!!

Hey, we lost the game. I think we needed the break. I dont think there is any shame in losing to the Steelers, they are a VERY good football team. We are sitting 6-3 right now. Tell me who realistically thought we would have been 6-2 at half way? i sure didn't.

Good points. There's certainly no need to freak out but that's business as usual after a loss. It actually wasn't that bad of a loss in the context of it being an out of conference game. The division games and in conference games are far more critical. This is a team that's been going hard since the beginning of August. I think more than anything they just need a mental break. And of course it will help them physically as well to rest up a bit.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Good points. There's certainly no need to freak out but that's business as usual after a loss. It actually wasn't that bad of a loss in the context of it being an out of conference game. The division games and in conference games are far more critical. This is a team that's been going hard since the beginning of August. I think more than anything they just need a mental break. And of course it will help them physically as well to rest up a bit.

Why make excuses? Sure we're banged up. So is Pittsburgh. They were without a starting safety, two starting O-lineman, and lost their franchise QB for the whole second half. And they beat the snot out of us in our house. It was disgusting. Being dinged up is a weak excuse. Every team in the NFL is hurting by week 9.

We didn't score a TD at home. We didn't score a point in the final 54 minutes of the game. That's awful and inexcusable, especially at home. I don't care how good they are on defense, if we want to be a top tier team in this league we've got to do better than that. And god help us if we weren't focused on this game and thinking about licking our wounds during the bye week. If that's the case, we've got problems.

I'm not suggesting anyone freak out. We've made it through nine games with 6 wins and no horrible injuries. But we better step the eff up, especially offensively, after the bye week.

Carlos- marry the jugs machine. For real. The fact that you have been playing football your whole life and can't catch is just sad man.

Jansen- get the heck outta the starting lineup. I love all you've done for the Skins, but it's painful to watch you get tossed around like a rag doll.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Why make excuses? Sure we're banged up. So is Pittsburgh. They were without a starting safety, two starting O-lineman, and lost their franchise QB for the whole second half. And they beat the snot out of us in our house. It was disgusting. Being dinged up is a weak excuse. Every team in the NFL is hurting by week 9.

We didn't score a TD at home. We didn't score a point in the final 54 minutes of the game. That's awful and inexcusable, especially at home. I don't care how good they are on defense, if we want to be a top tier team in this league we've got to do better than that. And god help us if we weren't focused on this game and thinking about licking our wounds during the bye week. If that's the case, we've got problems.

I'm not suggesting anyone freak out. We've made it through nine games with 6 wins and no horrible injuries. But we better step the eff up, especially offensively, after the bye week.

Carlos- marry the jugs machine. For real. The fact that you have been playing football your whole life and can't catch is just sad man.

Jansen- get the heck outta the starting lineup. I love all you've done for the Skins, but it's painful to watch you get tossed around like a rag doll.

Well done. They are beat up too. We're at home they are not. We're a #5 D they are #1. The Steelers had just as many excuses to lose as we do, but they won.

The Skins do need to step up or we'll be in some trouble. We haven't really played well offensively in some time and we aren't winning consistently at home.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Why make excuses? Sure we're banged up. So is Pittsburgh. They were without a starting safety, two starting O-lineman, and lost their franchise QB for the whole second half. And they beat the snot out of us in our house. It was disgusting. Being dinged up is a weak excuse. Every team in the NFL is hurting by week 9.

We didn't score a TD at home. We didn't score a point in the final 54 minutes of the game. That's awful and inexcusable, especially at home. I don't care how good they are on defense, if we want to be a top tier team in this league we've got to do better than that. And god help us if we weren't focused on this game and thinking about licking our wounds during the bye week. If that's the case, we've got problems.

I'm not suggesting anyone freak out. We've made it through nine games with 6 wins and no horrible injuries. But we better step the eff up, especially offensively, after the bye week.

Carlos- marry the jugs machine. For real. The fact that you have been playing football your whole life and can't catch is just sad man.

Jansen- get the heck outta the starting lineup. I love all you've done for the Skins, but it's painful to watch you get tossed around like a rag doll.

amazing how fans can turn into "the sky is falling" after losing one game. Yeah, we got beat, and beat bad. We went up against a very good team. We are still figuring out who we are. Our strength is to run the ball, and they stopped it. We couldn't throw because they sent the house every play and we didn't have enough time in the pocket. seriously.. relax. We were one of 4 teams ( i think ) with both offensive and defensive units in the top 10. I think that is pretty freaking stellar for a first year coach who has never called a game prior to this season (detroit doesn't count!)

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

amazing how fans can turn into "the sky is falling" after losing one game. Yeah, we got beat, and beat bad. We went up against a very good team. We are still figuring out who we are. Our strength is to run the ball, and they stopped it. We couldn't throw because they sent the house every play and we didn't have enough time in the pocket. seriously.. relax. We were one of 4 teams ( i think ) with both offensive and defensive units in the top 10. I think that is pretty freaking stellar for a first year coach who has never called a game prior to this season (detroit doesn't count!)

So you obviously didn't read my post, yet quoted it and said I think the sky is falling.

I specifically said "I'm not suggesting that anyone freak out."

[MTK]

I'm not making excuses, just pointing out some reality.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not making excuses, just pointing out some reality.

It is valid that we're worn out and banged up. But so was our opponent. And they had to play on the road, and without Big Ben the whole second half. So our reality in that regard was as bad as theirs.

I understand losing to a Super Bowl contender and being 6-3 is nothing to hang our heads about, but the fashion in which we got our asses kicked concerns me.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GMScud

It is valid that we're worn out and banged up. But so was our opponent. And they had to play on the road, and without Big Ben the whole second half. So our reality in that regard was as bad as theirs.

I understand losing to a Super Bowl contender and being 6-3 is nothing to hang our heads about, but the fashion in which we got our asses kicked concerns me.

I'm sorry GMScud but I have to go with Mattyk72 on this one. In the last week Blache, Zorn, and several players talked about how worn out they are.

And their wear and fatigue is not the same as the Steelers. Our guys have been learning new ways of doing things on both sides of the ball, not just brushing up on things they already know, and this wears on you.

Also, we had the longest training camp of anyone, more preseason games than anyone but the Colts, and some intense road games to start the season.

While I am concerned about a number of issues raised here - offensive line, catching interceptions, etc. - it seems to me that the guys were just shagged. Did you notice that the performance went down the more tired they got during the game? I think 6-3 is just fine, considering all of the conditions, and I think the guys will look really good after their rest.

As for all of the Pitt fans there, that was disgusting. Player fatigue had nothing to do with that. Anyone who sold their tickets should have their season tickets taken away and given to a Redskin-worthy person.