Samuels Done for the Year

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Well, for all those Samuels doubters out there, I guess we'll see just how "bad" he was. My guess is that, to all those but the most obstinate, we are going to see just how important Samuels was to this line.

Well the talent on D line that Samauls faced v/s what we have the next couple of weeks are pretty far apart. Even if they don't allow a sack it would be tough to judge if it was or was not CS playing.

[Takeuon]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well the talent on D line that Samauls faced v/s what we have the next couple of weeks are pretty far apart. Even if they don't allow a sack it would be tough to judge if it was or was not CS playing.

That is true.
I think it's funny how most everyone on here knows how bad our O-Line is. But when it comes to giving your opinion on Samuels all of a sudden he's the one of the best in the NFL!?? Why is it just because he happens to be our best offensive lineman. That automatically makes him one of the best??
Sure...He's not fully to blame for our offensive line meltdown...we could go into pages of threads to cover that topic. But he sure doesn't appear to be a leader for the line either. If you look at where most of the pressure has come from you will see it's generally from his side. Due to he's either getting over loaded or he just simply let the guy get around him. At times you can see he appears to not be playing to the level he should/could be. Not to mention he's highly penalty prone.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Takeuon

That is true.
I think it's funny how most everyone on here knows how bad our O-Line is. But when it comes to giving your opinion on Samuels all of a sudden he's the one of the best in the NFL!?? Why is it just because he happens to be our best offensive lineman. That automatically makes him one of the best??
Sure...He's not fully to blame for our offensive line meltdown...we could go into pages of threads to cover that topic. But he sure doesn't appear to be a leader for the line either. If you look at where most of the pressure has come from you will see it's generally from his side. Due to he's either getting over loaded or he just simply let the guy get around him. At times you can see he appears to not be playing to the level he should/could be. Not to mention he's highly penalty prone.

Kendal and Samuels are good. Samuels has been playing on a bad knee requiring surgury, so he has not been himself. Still better than Heyer who proved that he sucks, in the game he started at left tackle.

[GMScud]

Some more news on the injury front-

I've mentioned before I have a friend who is a part time trainer for the Redskins. He's at Redskins Park every Monday helping in the weight room / training room. He told me Horton looked like he was in a lot of pain with his shoulder injury, and that Geisenger is done for the year with a torn meniscus. Shit.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Takeuon

That is true.
I think it's funny how most everyone on here knows how bad our O-Line is. But when it comes to giving your opinion on Samuels all of a sudden he's the one of the best in the NFL!?? Why is it just because he happens to be our best offensive lineman. That automatically makes him one of the best??
Sure...He's not fully to blame for our offensive line meltdown...we could go into pages of threads to cover that topic. But he sure doesn't appear to be a leader for the line either. If you look at where most of the pressure has come from you will see it's generally from his side. Due to he's either getting over loaded or he just simply let the guy get around him. At times you can see he appears to not be playing to the level he should/could be. Not to mention he's highly penalty prone.

I've actually noticed much of the pressure coming from the offense's right side.

[FRPLG]

Silver lining. - I guess Reinhart wasn't as far along as they wanted or hoped he would be. Based on what I had heard it was questionable whether he was going to be able to start for us next year anyways. Now they need to get him in there and get coached up. Nothing like game experience to fast foward the learning process.

[SFREDSKIN]

I say we put Heyer, Reinhart and Clark in the starting lineup and see what they can do. We have nothing to lose and a lot to gain, experience wise.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I say we put Heyer, Reinhart and Clark in the starting lineup and see what they can do. We have nothing to lose and a lot to gain, experience wise.

So who would you bench? Kendall or Thomas?

We have nothing to lose except Jason Campbell's health and a chance (albeit slim at this point) to make the playoffs.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GMScud

So who would you bench? Kendall or Thomas?

We have nothing to lose except Jason Campbell's health and a chance (albeit slim at this point) to make the playoffs.

Rabach. Screw the playoffs, we are not going to make it and if we do, we'll get our asses kicked. I hate to say it, but we are playing for next year.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Rabach. Screw the playoffs, we are not going to make it and if we do, we'll get our asses kicked. I hate to say it, but we are playing for next year.

You play to win the games.

Even if it is 10-6, 9-7, 8-8 or 7-9 and at home regardless.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Silver lining. - I guess Reinhart wasn't as far along as they wanted or hoped he would be. Based on what I had heard it was questionable whether he was going to be able to start for us next year anyways. Now they need to get him in there and get coached up. Nothing like game experience to fast foward the learning process.

Could be a blessing in disguise. We need to see what we have in these guys and there's no better way to find out than playing them.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Silver lining. - I guess Reinhart wasn't as far along as they wanted or hoped he would be. Based on what I had heard it was questionable whether he was going to be able to start for us next year anyways. Now they need to get him in there and get coached up. Nothing like game experience to fast foward the learning process.

The fact that Rhinehart is something of a bust makes me think the FO is just shitty when it comes to scoping trench talent. When we needed at least one very competitive back-up (behind an aging line) the FO takes a kid from AA ball, and to boot takes him several rounds before the scouts had placed him. Really, really discouraging. Some have pointed out Rhinehart was sort of a project - that's very nice if you've got a stockyard full on talent but not when you've got jack shit behind the starters. For that matter, we just needed to aim for another starter to begin with. I hope the FO can vastly improve itself for the upcoming FA market and draft.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by The Goat

The fact that Rhinehart is something of a bust makes me think the FO is just shitty when it comes to scoping trench talent. When we needed at least one very competitive back-up (behind an aging line) the FO takes a kid from AA ball, and to boot takes him several rounds before the scouts had placed him. Really, really discouraging. Some have pointed out Rhinehart was sort of a project - that's very nice if you've got a stockyard full on talent but not when you've got jack shit behind the starters. For that matter, we just needed to aim for another starter to begin with. I hope the FO can vastly improve itself for the upcoming FA market and draft.

Who says Rhinehart is something of a bust.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Who says Rhinehart is something of a bust.

Well jeez... his not dressing in a game was the first hint. The fact that we've had a mess at RT most of season w/o even a mention of him dressing until the injury situation became dire is a good second.

What r we to believe: we drafted an o-lineman in a middle round so that he could watch in street-clothes for a season and go from there? Sweeeeeeeeeeet!

(pardon the sarcasm but when our line situation has been deteriorating for years and the one guy we draft doesn't even suit up - i hope to God that isn't what the FO had in mind or else we're really in trouble.)

[Monkeydad]

So what happened to Geisinger? I'd guess it was a pulled groin that happened when he was chasing the defenders he let go right past him.