Willis picks Seahawks over SKINS

[GTripp0012]

As far as free agent lineman go who aren't old, Elton Brown is pretty much the only guy left on the market. Duke Preston (Center, Buffalo) is only 27, but he's been a bust to this point in his career.

After that, there's 27 year old Kwame Harris and 27 year old Rob Pettiti, but those guys are awful.

After that it's all old guys. Still, better to have a bunch of old guys who can play than a bunch of old guys backed up by late round draft picks who cannot.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

As far as free agent lineman go who aren't old, Elton Brown is pretty much the only guy left on the market. Duke Preston (Center, Buffalo) is only 27, but he's been a bust to this point in his career.

After that, there's 27 year old Kwame Harris and 27 year old Rob Pettiti, but those guys are awful.

After that it's all old guys. Still, better to have a bunch of old guys who can play than a bunch of old guys backed up by late round draft picks who cannot.

Can't we hope a few gems will still get cut after the draft? I mean it seems like that's what the FO must be hoping to some degree cuz we haven't moved much in FA to shore up needs.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Can't we hope a few gems will still get cut after the draft? I mean it seems like that's what the FO must be hoping to some degree cuz we haven't moved much in FA to shore up needs.

I doubt anyone is close enough to the cap where they would have to make a cut of a player with significant talent in order to sign their draft picks.

Basically, any player who hits the market between now and the season is hitting only because their former employer doesn't think they can play.

So we either fill our needs by getting creative (which is what I suggested Williams for, not that I have the slightest clue if he can bull rush an NFL Guard), or we keep the thirteenth pick, and either address the offense or the defense, and leave the other with less depth than we need.

The other option is 1) hope that we can package our 1st and 3rd picks for two seconds, and 2) nail two impact players at positions of need in the second round.

I just don't see any other way that we would have the complete roster that I hoped for.

[GTripp0012]

Does anyone here think that former safety Roy Williams would make a good pressure-LB?

I'm just looking for any possible way we could add talent to our defense without using our first round pick. Damn you Jason Taylor.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Does anyone here think that former safety Roy Williams would make a good pressure-LB?

I'm just looking for any possible way we could add talent to our defense without using our first round pick. Damn you Jason Taylor.

What about Derrick Brooks? Is he that old? I mean if Darth Hoody can get Teddy Bruschi, Mike Vrable, and Junior Seau to play well, why can't we?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What about Derrick Brooks? Is he that old? I mean if Darth Hoody can get Teddy Bruschi, Mike Vrable, and Junior Seau to play well, why can't we?

Problem is, none of those guys were playing well. They were part of a below average defense where if they all did their jobs, they could shut down weak offenses.

And all of those players are younger than Brooks. Except Seau. Brooks, from what I've read, really, really had a rough season last year at age 35.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Does anyone here think that former safety Roy Williams would make a good pressure-LB?

I'm just looking for any possible way we could add talent to our defense without using our first round pick. Damn you Jason Taylor.

Why not... he's about the size of the few decent LB prospects left out there but this guy really likes to lay the wood. Only thing is I doubt he'd come cheap.

Edit: I don't think we can seriously upgrade the d outside of the draft GT, do you? We can help ensure the huge investments we've made won't be wasted in shoring up LDE and OLB w/ serviceable guys. Daniels/Wynn in rotation is a year's fix. Neither guy can hold the spot for a whole game/season but rotating consistently it could actually work. I think LB is the real tuffy. Take a chance on a smaller guy like June, Williams? Maybe it works. The draft lets us choose from guys who will fair better in the the mean NFC East smash-mouth running game. Shit, all the USC backers hit the scale at 240 or above and at least one of those guys will fall to 20.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Does anyone here think that former safety Roy Williams would make a good pressure-LB?

I'm just looking for any possible way we could add talent to our defense without using our first round pick. Damn you Jason Taylor.

Really. I didn't like the deal when we got him and now that we need him he's gone.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Really. I didn't like the deal when we got him and now that we need him he's gone.

Yeah, we kind of screwed ourselves.

First, there was no good reason for making that deal. We thought we could add an impact player for the price of a second round pick...well an impact player is what you make of it. Blache didn't use Jason Taylor as a unit of talent, he went plug and play.

Which is fine, but don't spend a second round pick if your coordinator is looking for freely available talent.

Now, oddly enough, the Redskins are looking for a unit of talent on the defense. Right now, Andre Carter is your sack threat. If Andre gets hurt...well, then we are right back where we were last year with blitzing every play with players who aren't suited to do that.

Jason Taylor as a LB/backup RE would have filled that need. Instead, we have 8.5 million to spend to go replace him, and no where to spend the money.

So basically, the best available option to fill our lone defensive need is through the draft. But with Willis signing back in Seattle, that draft pick seems needed on offense as well.

Oh well, maybe somebody makes a terrible trade with us to move up and grab a terrible player like Mark Sanchez. There are front offices that are stupid enough to do that, right?

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Does anyone here think that former safety Roy Williams would make a good pressure-LB?

I'm just looking for any possible way we could add talent to our defense without using our first round pick. Damn you Jason Taylor.

I'm still holding out that JT may be resigned later on down the road. He's got his Jason Taylor Foundation down in Florida that he works with heavily. Being in DC during the off-season would have significantly reduced his involvement. At this stage in his career he can pretty much call his shots. He says "I want to stay in Florida". The team says "No, we need you here". The two sides agree to part ways perhaps leaving open the possibility of him resigning with the team at a later time. Both sides win and neither looks like a chump...

end pipe dream.

[ChickenMonkey]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I'm still holding out that JT may be resigned later on down the road. He's got his Jason Taylor Foundation down in Florida that he works with heavily. Being in DC during the off-season would have significantly reduced his involvement. At this stage in his career he can pretty much call his shots. He says "I want to stay in Florida". The team says "No, we need you here". The two sides agree to part ways perhaps leaving open the possibility of him resigning with the team at a later time. Both sides win and neither looks like a chump...

end pipe dream.

I most definately hope not, there is a reason he was cut, he didnt want to put in the effort, we dont need someone like that on our squad...sets a bad example for the younger players, whom already havent shown they can handle the NFL yet!!

[MiraclesHappen07]

lol who knows? maybe it could happen, im sure he would like to take a crack at the cowgirsl for two games every year

[The Goat]

I would look at Cato June (still available right?) before Brooks. On the other hand i'm hankering for a real killer type, the whole package, for our new LB. I don't think one exists in FA though.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I would look at Cato June (still available right?) before Brooks. On the other hand i'm hankering for a real killer type, the whole package, for our new LB. I don't think one exists in FA though.

Well I guess it depends on their price. I had also thought about Cato June too. Maybe we can address the LB position with a veteran for now if we get the chance to address the offensive line with the #13.

[The Goat]

GT do i hear you saying the trade back scenario where we get detroit's 1st and 2nd round picks is totally improbable? What if we sweetened the deal packaging our 1st and last or 1st and 5th round pick?