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Old 06-17-2009, 12:40 PM   #1
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Re: Stallworth to serve 30 days

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Old 06-17-2009, 02:14 PM   #2
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I understand why some people think Stallworth got off light, but you have to look at everything in perspective. Prisons everywhere are overcrowded to the point that people who deliberately commit serious offenses (car theives, bank robbers, even rapists and child molesters) get out of jail early to make room for more "dangerous" or more recent offenders. For that reason, people who pose a minimal threat to society are given house arrest - yes, stallworth is going to be in prison 30 days, but he'll be under house arrest for 2 years, and probation for 8 after that. he also wont be able to drive again for life, thereby eliminating the threat he could repeat his crime.

Which brings me to my other point - what should be the purpose of prison anyways? not only to protect society from the criminal, but also to rehabilitate the criminal. Based on everything i've read, Stallworth isnt a threat to anyone and he has displayed genuine remorse and repentance for his crime... what good is supposed to come from sending Stallworth to jail for two (or more) years? really, what would that accomplish? Stallworth immediately accepted responsibility, apologized, has compensated the family, and has said he wants to be a public voice against drunk driving - to help prevent further tragedies like this.

So for those of you unsatisfied by the resolution of this case, please tell me - what more do you want? and if you do want more, is it really "justice" you're after?
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:09 AM   #3
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I understand why some people think Stallworth got off light, but you have to look at everything in perspective. Prisons everywhere are overcrowded to the point that people who deliberately commit serious offenses (car theives, bank robbers, even rapists and child molesters) get out of jail early to make room for more "dangerous" or more recent offenders. For that reason, people who pose a minimal threat to society are given house arrest - yes, stallworth is going to be in prison 30 days, but he'll be under house arrest for 2 years, and probation for 8 after that. he also wont be able to drive again for life, thereby eliminating the threat he could repeat his crime.

Which brings me to my other point - what should be the purpose of prison anyways? not only to protect society from the criminal, but also to rehabilitate the criminal. Based on everything i've read, Stallworth isnt a threat to anyone and he has displayed genuine remorse and repentance for his crime... what good is supposed to come from sending Stallworth to jail for two (or more) years? really, what would that accomplish? Stallworth immediately accepted responsibility, apologized, has compensated the family, and has said he wants to be a public voice against drunk driving - to help prevent further tragedies like this.

So for those of you unsatisfied by the resolution of this case, please tell me - what more do you want? and if you do want more, is it really "justice" you're after?
That was well said BHA.
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Old 06-18-2009, 05:06 AM   #4
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Our legal system vary from state to state on the punishment for crimes. Stallworth isn't the 1st person to drink and drive but he used bad judgement which resulted in taken a human life away. Lets be honest , I know I have used bad judgement driving home from the bar after drinking with the fellas. I was fortunate not to have gotten in a accident or struck a pedestrian. That was in my younger years, now I don't even drink any more.

I new when the story 1st broke that Stallworth had been drinking prior to the accident based on the fact that he never made a statement that he had not been drinking. The standard line is due to the on going investigation I can not comment on this incident. If it was me and I new I was not guilty of DUI you would bet I would have said that. When your guilty you dont want to make a statement that they can use against you later in court. Attorney always advise not to talk , let them prove your guilty.

His sentence 30 days in county jail for a felony drunk driving / Manslaughter conviction is way to short. People get sentenced to 30 days for writing bad checks. This is a joke of the legal system and If your famous you get a lesser sentence. Stallworth is a millionaire who can afford to call a taxi or Limo to pick him up there is no excuse for him to drive and risk all that he has obtained from playing in the NFL, but he decided to drive. Is this his 1st time driving DUI? I doubt it but these things seem to come back and bite us when we least expected it.


Vick kills dogs and Stallworth kills a human being. I know it was an accident that he hit the pedestrian out of the cross walk but he was DUI. If he was not drinking than it would be a accident that took a human being. He would not be jailed and he would not be liable. His car insurance may have paid out some money but thats about it. Stallworth broke the law like thousands of people due but it resulted in a death. His money played a huge part in him only serving 30 days due to the settlement he made with the victims family. The victim just got off from work so he had a family to provide for. Who knows their financial situation if the victim had life insurance. So the family Attorney saw a opportunity to help the victim's family financially due to the wealth of Stallworth. In court the vicitms family could have out more pressure on the DA's office if they did not the deal Stallworth was pleading to. This deal had to be worked out by both the DA's Office and the victims Attorney.


The family took the deal to be financially compensated and Stallworth would receive little jail time. Thats how the courts rule on these incidents. They all are happy, DA office gets a guilty conviction and family gets paid.

Anyone remember Jason Williams ( NJ Nets) he still has not done any jail time for Involunantary Manslaughter. Not even sure how long ago that case was in court.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:19 AM   #5
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Our legal system vary from state to state on the punishment for crimes. Stallworth isn't the 1st person to drink and drive but he used bad judgement which resulted in taken a human life away. Lets be honest , I know I have used bad judgement driving home from the bar after drinking with the fellas. I was fortunate not to have gotten in a accident or struck a pedestrian. That was in my younger years, now I don't even drink any more.

I new when the story 1st broke that Stallworth had been drinking prior to the accident based on the fact that he never made a statement that he had not been drinking. The standard line is due to the on going investigation I can not comment on this incident. If it was me and I new I was not guilty of DUI you would bet I would have said that. When your guilty you dont want to make a statement that they can use against you later in court. Attorney always advise not to talk , let them prove your guilty.

His sentence 30 days in county jail for a felony drunk driving / Manslaughter conviction is way to short. People get sentenced to 30 days for writing bad checks. This is a joke of the legal system and If your famous you get a lesser sentence. Stallworth is a millionaire who can afford to call a taxi or Limo to pick him up there is no excuse for him to drive and risk all that he has obtained from playing in the NFL, but he decided to drive. Is this his 1st time driving DUI? I doubt it but these things seem to come back and bite us when we least expected it.


Vick kills dogs and Stallworth kills a human being. I know it was an accident that he hit the pedestrian out of the cross walk but he was DUI. If he was not drinking than it would be a accident that took a human being. He would not be jailed and he would not be liable. His car insurance may have paid out some money but thats about it. Stallworth broke the law like thousands of people due but it resulted in a death. His money played a huge part in him only serving 30 days due to the settlement he made with the victims family. The victim just got off from work so he had a family to provide for. Who knows their financial situation if the victim had life insurance. So the family Attorney saw a opportunity to help the victim's family financially due to the wealth of Stallworth. In court the vicitms family could have out more pressure on the DA's office if they did not the deal Stallworth was pleading to. This deal had to be worked out by both the DA's Office and the victims Attorney.


The family took the deal to be financially compensated and Stallworth would receive little jail time. Thats how the courts rule on these incidents. They all are happy, DA office gets a guilty conviction and family gets paid.

Anyone remember Jason Williams ( NJ Nets) he still has not done any jail time for Involunantary Manslaughter. Not even sure how long ago that case was in court.
At least the NFL is not going to tolerate this and take a stand to clean up the league. It is a privillage to play in the NFL and make $200,000 or more a year to play football. Some players take it for granted that they get to play a sport that most of us would do for free let alone get paid to do.
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:42 PM   #6
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Im sure the prisons are full of ppl who had accidents or were negligent and killed someone.. and im sure they are sorry also.
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Old 06-17-2009, 04:14 PM   #7
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Im sure the prisons are full of ppl who had accidents or were negligent and killed someone.. and im sure they are sorry also.
I highly doubt that. I'm not saying the justice system is consistent, because its obvioulsy not. But i think there are far fewer people guilty of this type of crime with long prison sentences that you want to beleive. I also think theres a difference between someone saying theyre sorry and someone who demonstrates true repentance by seeking to atone for their wrong in every way possible.

I'm not trying to deny the magnitute of what happened here - a man lost his life - but when i look at the mitigating circumstances in this case, and compare it to the type of scum that needs to be in a prison, i dont think theres a gross miscarriage of justice going on here. remember, justice isnt just about punishment. it involves mercy too.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:33 PM   #8
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I highly doubt that. I'm not saying the justice system is consistent, because its obvioulsy not. But i think there are far fewer people guilty of this type of crime with long prison sentences that you want to beleive. I also think theres a difference between someone saying theyre sorry and someone who demonstrates true repentance by seeking to atone for their wrong in every way possible.

I'm not trying to deny the magnitute of what happened here - a man lost his life - but when i look at the mitigating circumstances in this case, and compare it to the type of scum that needs to be in a prison, i dont think theres a gross miscarriage of justice going on here. remember, justice isnt just about punishment. it involves mercy too.
No my friend, justice is blind.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:44 PM   #9
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I highly doubt that. I'm not saying the justice system is consistent, because its obvioulsy not. But i think there are far fewer people guilty of this type of crime with long prison sentences that you want to beleive. I also think theres a difference between someone saying theyre sorry and someone who demonstrates true repentance by seeking to atone for their wrong in every way possible.

I'm not trying to deny the magnitute of what happened here - a man lost his life - but when i look at the mitigating circumstances in this case, and compare it to the type of scum that needs to be in a prison, i dont think theres a gross miscarriage of justice going on here. remember, justice isnt just about punishment. it involves mercy too.
eh, how many anectdotes does it take to change one's opinion. I had a friend that had an epileptic seizure while driving, he had a doctors note, was on precscribed medicine, had done everything "right". He killed someone. Did a full 3 years in prison, lost all his insurance and 1/2 his pension to pay the victim's family. If he had had more money, he would have done less time. I don't really have a problem with Stallworths outcome, but again, it shows the discrepancies money ALWAYS brings.
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eh, how many anectdotes does it take to change one's opinion. I had a friend that had an epileptic seizure while driving, he had a doctors note, was on precscribed medicine, had done everything "right". He killed someone. Did a full 3 years in prison, lost all his insurance and 1/2 his pension to pay the victim's family. If he had had more money, he would have done less time. I don't really have a problem with Stallworths outcome, but again, it shows the discrepancies money ALWAYS brings.
He must have had the worst lawyer in the world.
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:18 PM   #11
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Im sure the prisons are full of ppl who had accidents or were negligent and killed someone.. and im sure they are sorry also.
then don't drink and drive while if your poor???? who says you cant put a price on life
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In 5 years he can petition the court for restricted driving privileges according to his lawyer.
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Also of interest:
http://www.1800duilaws.com/forms/doc...uresManual.pdf

45 states are co-signers of this compact.

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APPLICATIONS FOR NEW LICENSES—Upon application for a license to drive, the licensing
authority in a party state shall ascertain whether the applicant has ever held, or is the
holder of, a license to drive issued by any other party state. The licensing authority in the
state where application is made shall not issue a license to drive to the applicant if:
(1) The applicant has held such a license, but the same has been suspended by
reason, in whole or in part, of a violation and if such suspension period has not
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Wisconsin, Tennessee, Georgia, Massachusetts, and Michigan are all Non-compact states and don't share Drunk Driving (DUI and DWI) conviction information.
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45 states are co-signers of this compact.
So all he has to do is get licensed in one of the 5 states that is not a compact co-signer. Thats not very hard. All he has to do is sign with Tennessee, Atlanta, Green Bay, New England, or Detroit. Problem solved.
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Old 06-17-2009, 03:17 PM   #15
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So all he has to do is get licensed in one of the 5 states that is not a compact co-signer. Thats not very hard. All he has to do is sign with Tennessee, Atlanta, Green Bay, New England, or Detroit. Problem solved.
LOL yup you are right! I guess money does solve everything!
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