Vick conditionally reinstated by NFL (updated)

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't think anyone is going to pick him up. I just don't see it. This time of year rosters are set. Outside of Oakland I don't see anyone who wants to put up with the drama. He's going to have to go to the new league and try and knock off the rust, then try something next year.

For some reason I have a feeling you will be proven very wrong in believing that. Vick will be signed right away, in the NFL. Some team will take a chance, there is more than one dallas out there. There could even be a bidding war over his services.

Long as the SKINS don't have anything to do with this fool, could care less. But there will be a taker.

[KLHJ2]

Someone will sign him before the trade deadline...just a hunch.

[MTK]

With camp injuries you never know who might roll the dice.

I'd be surprised if there isn't a handful of teams that have him on their radar.

[12thMan]

If I had to go out on a limb to choose a team, I wouldn't bet against the Steelers scooping him up.

[joethiesmanfan]

We could use his explosiveness. Any team can use his explosiveness. The boy is good. You dont have to have an o-line full of first round picks for him to successd. You don't have be like the Colts and spend everything on offense and hope the coach can make a defense out of two players. I like old fashioned football defense and run the ball. He is perfect for that.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

We could use his explosiveness. Any team can use his explosiveness. The boy is good. You dont have to have an o-line full of first round picks for him to successd. You don't have be like the Colts and spend everything on offense and hope the coach can make a defense out of two players. I like old fashioned football defense and run the ball. He is perfect for that.

The boy was good. It's likely he's lost most of his athletic edge that kept him as one of the best NFL caliber athletes.

This is like people thinking Mike Tyson was going to punish people when he got out of prison. He was served meatball opponents until he faced real competition in Holyfield. He never had the prowess he used have after his stagnant stay in prison.


This Vick thing is only a storyline, he won't be making a difference on the field come September.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

The boy was good. It's likely he's lost most of his athletic edge that kept him as one of the best NFL caliber athletes.

This is like people thinking Mike Tyson was going to punish people when he got out of prison. He was served meatball opponents until he faced real competition in Holyfield. He never had the prowess he used have after his stagnant stay in prison.


This Vick thing is only a storyline, he won't be making a difference on the field come September.

I take that as a bet. Even a Vick that has a lost a little will still be fast. Will have to acclimate back to the game. Somebody will put him on the field. A genius like Belicheat. He can go to a team he does not have to carry like he did with the Falcons. I like players like him because you can't scheme him. football becomes unpredictable and not boring.

[SBXVII]

^This is the same thought process with Mike Williams. He hasn't ridden a bike in 2 yrs so he's likely to have lost most of his ability to.

Most players have played since little league. I doubt they have lost their ability but his age and stanima is the question. I say his age cause his body may not be able to hold up and his stanima meaning endurance. Can he play a whole game. I would not doubt these players in a few short weeks would be using their technique that got them to the pros in the first place.

[joethiesmanfan]

Brady o-line gets old he is a sitting duck, lost Super Bowl.
Manning - First round picks all around him from the RB's to the WR's, no Super Bowl until Sexy Rex gave him one.

Football is athletics leave the geniuses to figure out how to get us to the Moon.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Brady o-line gets old he is a sitting duck, lost Super Bowl.
Manning - First round picks all around him from the RB's to the WR's, no Super Bowl until Sexy Rex gave him one.

Football is athletics leave the geniuses to figure out how to get us to the Moon.

The QB position is a lot more than just "athletics". And don't forget Vick was running a 4.25, possibly a 4.2, 40-time in his prime. His great speed was his only asset. Now his trainer states "he can naturally run a 4.4", but to my knowledge he hasn't run a timed 40 anywhere recently. Bottom line, Vick's last three years at the QB position he stunk. If you want to move him to WR or "slash" type, a 4.4 at a skill position in the NFL is good but not great, a lot of guys run 4.4s in the NFL. And who knows if Vick has any hands for the WR position, as I remember he fumbled more than average as a QB.

Vick is damaged goods and it's very doubful he'll have any real success upon his return.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The QB position is a lot more than just "athletics". And don't forget Vick was running a 4.25, possibly a 4.2, 40-time in his prime. His great speed was his only asset. Now his trainer states "he can naturally run a 4.4", but to my knowledge he hasn't run a timed 40 anywhere recently. Bottom line, Vick's last three years at the QB position he stunk. If you want to move him to WR or "slash" type, a 4.4 at a skill position in the NFL is good but not great, a lot of guys run 4.4s in the NFL. And who knows if Vick has any hands for the WR position, as I remember he fumbled more than average as a QB.

Vick is damaged goods and it's very doubful he'll have any real success upon his return.

Pure speculation. Dude won more playoff games than Manning or Romo.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Pure speculation. Dude won more playoff games than Manning or Romo.

Which one, Archie?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Which one, Archie?

Post of the day!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Pure speculation. Dude won more playoff games than Manning or Romo.

Speculation? Another FAIL.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post559797

2003 - QB Rating = 69
2004 - QB Rating = 78.1 Fumbles = 16
2005 - QB Rating = 73.1 Fumbles = 11
2006 - QB Rating = 75.7 Fumbles = 9

Not a stellar record in the playoffs 2-2 and pretty bad in the losses. The most recent playoff win was against the mighty 8-8 Rams.

Michael Vick Gamelogs and Game Logs - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Matty - Archie LOL

Peyton Manning playoff wins = 7 (one's a SB)

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The QB position is a lot more than just "athletics". And don't forget Vick was running a 4.25, possibly a 4.2, 40-time in his prime. His great speed was his only asset. Now his trainer states "he can naturally run a 4.4", but to my knowledge he hasn't run a timed 40 anywhere recently. Bottom line, Vick's last three years at the QB position he stunk. If you want to move him to WR or "slash" type, a 4.4 at a skill position in the NFL is good but not great, a lot of guys run 4.4s in the NFL. And who knows if Vick has any hands for the WR position, as I remember he fumbled more than average as a QB.

Vick is damaged goods and it's very doubful he'll have any real success upon his return.

The fact is your guessing. So he lost 2 tenths of a second on his 40. The 40 is a good measure for speed but does not touch the intangables like making players miss tackles. He's had 2 yrs to simply run around a fenced in field. 2 yrs to weight lift and get stronger. If I'm not mistaken they even allow balls in jail so he probably found a way to throw a ball once and a while. Most likely all he has to work on is his accuracy.