Offense = Disappointment

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by number21isabadman

On a lighter note.This just in, 4 picks by the supposedly next great franchise qb in chicago, jay aka "I think im the next farve" cutler. Thank god chicago outbid us for him, they can keep him.

I say lets give it a few yrs, you know when he has a true number 1 wr. Not a special teams ace turned wr out of necessity. Oh yeah i forgot this one.
ITS HIS FIRST GAME IN A NEW OFFENSE.

[bedlamVR]

Moss was terrible and I hope other pick up on this .

The Int - Sure it should never have been thrown because Campbell was well beyond the line, BUT Moss was no where on that play . And this is the point people want to Jump on Campbell but Moss turns up for about 30% of the games . He almost got himself ejected and that would have been nothing but a good thing given how badly he played .

Kelly and Thomas need to play better, the bright spot was ARE . Cooley was solid as always and even Davis had a possitive impact yesterday with solid blocking especially on the fack FG ...

Overall I give the team a C ... needs to improve ..

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

Moss was terrible and I hope other pick up on this .

The Int - Sure it should never have been thrown because Campbell was well beyond the line, BUT Moss was no where on that play . And this is the point people want to Jump on Campbell but Moss turns up for about 30% of the games . He almost got himself ejected and that would have been nothing but a good thing given how badly he played .

Kelly and Thomas need to play better, the bright spot was ARE . Cooley was solid as always and even Davis had a possitive impact yesterday with solid blocking especially on the fack FG ...

Overall I give the team a C ... needs to improve ..

Good Observatons bro.

[bigant]

take zorn and campbell and throw them away. the worst play calling in the league and the worst qb in the dam game.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by bigant

take zorn and campbell and throw them away. the worst play calling in the league and the worst qb in the dam game.

Great assement bro. This guy is a great football mind. LOL Joke

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

Great assement bro. This guy is a great football mind. LOL Joke

JC is not the worst QB in the league by far.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Ok, here is what I saw last night.

One: terrible play calling on the part of Jim Zorn. After a great play and run by Clinton Portis you call a gimmick play. ugg not this early Jim. Let these guys get in a groove before you call on the old ARE reverse pass. Then as the game progresses the Redskins offense becomes so predictable. Run Run Pass. Every time out. Come on Jim you are playing the Giants Deffense. These guys are good but you at least need to put your team in a position to win and be successful. You failed in doing anything close to that yesterday. The running game wasn't working but you continue to run to try and set up the pass. How many times on second and 8 or 9 are you going to run the ball again for the same result? Then try and pass on third down. Grade F for old Zorny and the game plan for yesterday.

Two: I thought the defense played reall well in only holding the Giants to 16 points. the guys came up big in the Redzone and on Third/Forth downs in the Redzone, but what about the rest of the field? Can Blache ever make an adjustment? Will we ever not play so damn far off the ball, Cbs and Safeties? Is this just how the scheme is and as fans we should just except it and never expect an adjstment to be made?

Three: I for one thought the oline gave Jason plenty of time to get the ball out of his hands. Jason still does not think quickly enough and has a hard time going through progressions in the matter of 3-4 seconds. This is the Giants, Jason, I know you are scared of them and I see that you will continue to be, until you realize when the pocket is collapsing you either need to step up in the pocket, throw the ball away, find a guy who is open, or take a sack. That Osi touchdown was your fault not the line, and was the difference in the ball game. Jason continues to look like a deer in headlights when he plays the Giants. We are not going to win the division or the superbowl with a guy who plays scared. One other thing, learn where the line of scrimmage is and don't throw past it. Ok?

This is not the end of the world and the Skins faired alot better than they did in last years opener, but to that end, we will not beat the Giants until we actually think we can. I saw an offense which was scared and inept. How can you win the division if you don't believe you can beat the head of the East?

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

And wtf is with Moss mentally checking himself out of the game after the fight with Webster? I mean damn, Moss was non-existant the ENTIRE game! He wasnt even drawing double teams but just couldnt get open. Very surprising. Its time for these young wideouts to step up.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

And wtf is with Moss mentally checking himself out of the game after the fight with Webster? I mean damn, Moss was non-existant the ENTIRE game! He wasnt even drawing double teams but just couldnt get open. Very surprising. Its time for these young wideouts to step up.

I have a theory about moss. if the game is not going well offensively and hes not catching passes or being targeted he gets frustrated and stops trying. in the skins-cowboys game a few years ago (yeah the one where he catches 2 late tds for the win) there was audio of him pouting on the sideline to portis complaiing about how gibbs wasnt calling any of the plays we had practiced in preparation for the boys. portis gave him alil pep talk, brunnell hits moss twice we win.

i think moss and portis have not had faith in a skins HC in a long time. they see the same anemic passing game, no explosion and seemingly poor play calling year in year out. im frustrated with it so i can understand moss and portis' sentiment . . money and contract really is the only thing keeping them a skin. wish it was heart . . .

go skins!!

ps - offensive line looked good and JC is real accurate on those short check down under-neath routes teams will give us late in the game when they are up by 2 possessions.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Yep a very dissapointing game from Moss.

[over the mountain]

good post up there artmonkhof'07 . . . almost my exact sentiments from yesterdays game but stated more clearly.

and this is the first game, we have time to improve, stay close and hopefully hit some kind of stride/winning streak at the right time . . .

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Over The M.- we can still have a nice season and this is only one game, but to your above post about Moss and Portis. i have to agree with you. Where is the heart? Where is the will to win? Why are we always so excepting of poor effort and execution?

Clinton I love your game, but when are you going to do something other than running into a closed hole. Where is that bounce out ability you use to have? Man I just want a team who wants to win football games. The body language of the Redskin's players (specifically the offense) is pretty dishearting as a fan.

[Beemnseven]

More sobering stats offensively:

-- Portis' 34-yard run was his longest since 2006

-- The offense hasn't scored 30 points in 19 straight games, a drought second only to the Detroit Lions

-- Seven consecutive regular season games without a touchdown in the 1st quarter (been outscored 51-0).

[Monkeydad]

At least we don't have Cutler or THIS GUY:

[dmvskinzfan08]

I will say this. People are down on JC. I think he didn't have a good game. But it wasn't like Cutler or Delhomme. Think about this. Last year Jason played good during the first half of the season. He didn't even throw a interception for a while. He needs to step up his play and be better in the pocket and move around and scramble a little more. At the halfway mark we looked good. What changed? 3 things IMO.

1. People figured out Zorn's play calling.
2. We had games against some of the top defenses in the league. Pittsburgh, BMore, etc.
3. Offensive line woes.

Not a good combination. I am not a JC apologist. He clearly needs to step his game up. But Zorn has to put his team in a position to win. Running a trick play after the portis run was at best idiotic.

Saying all this. JC needs to improve his awareness. Holding too long doesn't bother me as much as him being mobile. Its like he thinks just because he is a pocket QB he can't run. Games in which he runs. We do significantly better. If things break down. Gain some yards or throw it away if no one is open. I will agree his decision making needs to be quicker.

But we did lose to the 49ers & Bengals?????