Zorn: "I'm not worried about my job"

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

People hate change, but at the same time they always have their eye on what's next. Human nature I guess.

I thought you wanted change. LOL

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought you wanted change. LOL

[sancho2613]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

People hate change, but at the same time they always have their eye on what's next. Human nature I guess.

very true.. It'll probably be a low scoring game unless WSH can finally get going on offense than it should be a shutout. Playing Detroit should be a perfect chance to get going offensively and get some confidence back

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I'll tell you what really gets me, not that anyone asked but WTF, all the complaining about how this organization doesn't have patience and The Dan always makes so many changes, there is never any continuity or stability. We're always saying look at teams like the Steelers who change coaches every 12-20 years and build through the draft blah blah blah. Well we're building through the draft and we have a coach who is trying to bring about change and get this offense to where we all hope it can be. He's made improvements and he'll make more if we give him time. You don't use patience when things are going well, you use it when they're not. Which is it gonna be?

You certainly make good points, and I have said that in the past, however, you are overlooking two things.
1-The patience on Campbell has been WAAAAAAYYYY too long. What has he done to deserve that leash? This is his 4TH season in the NFL, and this week vs the lions he will start his 39th game. 39!!!! The ineptitude in the redzone is on campbell's shoulders. There is a reason Zorn called the HB option, gotta try something when your qb is not cutting it. How many times are we gonna hear someone talk about different systems, or it takes X amount of starts to be good in the NFL? Well, we have passed these people. You are an NFL QB, if you can't be productive in different systems, even though you had time to learn them, chances are YOU are the problem, not the system.
2- It's good to be patient with someone that deserves it, and earned it. Has Zorn done either? This is a guy that never has been an OC much less head coach. We all exercised patience with him last year when he ended the season pretty horribly, and no coincidence that this season has started the way last year ended. So what has Zorn done to a- deserve the job, b- keep the job when he's performing in a subpar fashion?

[Pocket$ $traight]

This is a flat out lie. That is why he makes Gibbs 2.0 look like Air Coryell. Either take some chances or quit wasting our time, Zorn.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This is a flat out lie. That is why he makes Gibbs 2.0 look like Air Coryell. Either take some chances or quit wasting our time, Zorn.

we have to try to take a few chances like maybe todd collins

[Wildcat]

I would think Zorn would atleast last through out this season, but with the talent in place on this teams roster, he has to make the playoffs!

[Meks]

he needs to get his play-calling straight, and just let jason throw the ball ....

it's like trent edwards said sumthin like

" t.o one -on- one i just threw it as far as i could and he'd run under it and grab it "

thats one thing i liked about mark brunell when he was here.... when Don Bruex was calling the old fun bunch offense with gibbs when we made the play-offs...

santana moss had his career year and there were alot of down-field plays that he threw as hard as he could and LET his recievers make plays...

BECAUSE JOE TRUSTED HIM.

zorns #1 problem is lack of faith in jason and too much trying to play QB from the damn sidelines telling JC where to go, trying to force what he thinks will be open and what not...

he's OVER-COACHING the QB to go along
with his shitty bi-polar play-calling .... like damn, cuz JC would have said coach i dont think the HB option is gonna work i hadda call timeout the D didnt look right I'm really feelin a fade to malcolm .... u'd effin sit him?

get the f outta here wit dat .... let the players PLAY, thats why ur on the sidelines and since u WERE on the field, the game has changed and maybe u need to see that....

he can't call plays consistently, he has NO faith in JC, and he's gettin a big head the power of head coach is too much 4 a former QB coach.

mistake from day one. AGREED. continuity would be nice.
but in this scenario, if things dont change soon.... i seriuously will go with the thought that he just is NOT suited to be a head coach in this league.

8-8 or less........ look for some-one with experience who if is interested. fire him. right now he is not good enough.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Meks

he needs to get his play-calling straight, and just let jason throw the ball ....

it's like trent edwards said sumthin like

" t.o one -on- one i just threw it as far as i could and he'd run under it and grab it "

thats one thing i liked about mark brunell when he was here.... when Don Bruex was calling the old fun bunch offense with gibbs when we made the play-offs...

santana moss had his career year and there were alot of down-field plays that he threw as hard as he could and LET his recievers make plays...

BECAUSE JOE TRUSTED HIM.

zorns #1 problem is lack of faith in jason and too much trying to play QB from the damn sidelines telling JC where to go, trying to force what he thinks will be open and what not...

he's OVER-COACHING the QB to go along
with his shitty bi-polar play-calling .... like damn, cuz JC would have said coach i dont think the HB option is gonna work i hadda call timeout the D didnt look right I'm really feelin a fade to malcolm .... u'd effin sit him?

get the f outta here wit dat .... let the players PLAY, thats why ur on the sidelines and since u WERE on the field, the game has changed and maybe u need to see that....

he can't call plays consistently, he has NO faith in JC, and he's gettin a big head the power of head coach is too much 4 a former QB coach.

mistake from day one. AGREED. continuity would be nice.
but in this scenario, if things dont change soon.... i seriuously will go with the thought that he just is NOT suited to be a head coach in this league.

8-8 or less........ look for some-one with experience who if is interested. fire him. right now he is not good enough.

I feel your pain shit i'm a saints fan, we have never been good!! I do think we are champ. good this yr though. As far as WSH and Zorn, he's a gonner, and so is JC. It is what it is man, you guys better score against us, or it could get ugly. Last yr our D was so bad that you guys did score but we are better on D this yr and Reggie is actually playing better as a WR.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I feel your pain shit i'm a saints fan, we have never been good!! I do think we are champ. good this yr though. As far as WSH and Zorn, he's a gonner, and so is JC. It is what it is man, you guys better score against us, or it could get ugly. Last yr our D was so bad that you guys did score but we are better on D this yr and Reggie is actually playing better as a WR.

Well the Saints are playing well this season but its still early and if Brees goes down than what? The Redskins had a proud tradition in the 80's not sure win the Saints have ever did anything in this league. Your fans are use to losing some of us have been around since George Allen and Gibbs first coaching stint. So dont worry about us playing your Saints we know your team pretty well. We did see you last season.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I feel your pain shit i'm a saints fan, we have never been good!! I do think we are champ. good this yr though. As far as WSH and Zorn, he's a gonner, and so is JC. It is what it is man, you guys better score against us, or it could get ugly. Last yr our D was so bad that you guys did score but we are better on D this yr and Reggie is actually playing better as a WR.

So the Saints win 2 games and now your here giving advise on what we sould do and/or not do. Just keep riding high guy because its early in the season and as the season rolls on the Saints will find a way not to make it to the playoffs or SB. Its just about the same song and dance for them every year.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Meks

he needs to get his play-calling straight, and just let jason throw the ball ....

it's like trent edwards said sumthin like

" t.o one -on- one i just threw it as far as i could and he'd run under it and grab it "

thats one thing i liked about mark brunell when he was here.... when Don Bruex was calling the old fun bunch offense with gibbs when we made the play-offs...

santana moss had his career year and there were alot of down-field plays that he threw as hard as he could and LET his recievers make plays...

BECAUSE JOE TRUSTED HIM.

zorns #1 problem is lack of faith in jason and too much trying to play QB from the damn sidelines telling JC where to go, trying to force what he thinks will be open and what not...

he's OVER-COACHING the QB to go along
with his shitty bi-polar play-calling .... like damn, cuz JC would have said coach i dont think the HB option is gonna work i hadda call timeout the D didnt look right I'm really feelin a fade to malcolm .... u'd effin sit him?

get the f outta here wit dat .... let the players PLAY, thats why ur on the sidelines and since u WERE on the field, the game has changed and maybe u need to see that....

he can't call plays consistently, he has NO faith in JC, and he's gettin a big head the power of head coach is too much 4 a former QB coach.

mistake from day one. AGREED. continuity would be nice.
but in this scenario, if things dont change soon.... i seriuously will go with the thought that he just is NOT suited to be a head coach in this league.

8-8 or less........ look for some-one with experience who if is interested. fire him. right now he is not good enough.

Well MB might have thrown the ball as hard as he could but he also lead the player away from coverage with his throw. That one of the problems JC has had with the long ball.

[Meks]

^ he's not out of touch.

zorn is the one who is GETTING out of touch man. refer to my above post.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Meks

^ he's not out of touch.

zorn is the one who is GETTING out of touch man. refer to my above post.

Its always easier to 2nd guess the Head Coach from the press box , stands and the couch. We all have this I would have done this or that in the Red Zone. Sounds like the same Sh*t the public likes to say when a Police Officer gets into a shooting. You dont know what you would do unless you are the one that has to make the decision in front of thousands or in miliseconds.

[Meks]

^ i wouldnt have made that call or the shit the he called in the red zone. it's NOT, actually that difficult to call a fade. or a power run instead of a stretch .... its NOT. defend him all u want...

shape up or ship out is his fate. and it's well deserved at that friend.