Lighten Up On Snyder

[Spence]

Originally Posted by dmek25

Spence, i don't know why you keep bringing up Snyder passing the cost onto the fan. can you name me one owner that doesn't? or one successful businessman that doesn't?

I mentioned it once. As for ticket and parking prices, those are legitimate issues. Snyder sets those prices. If we can't hold Snyder responsible for his own decisions, what's the point of being allowed to discuss him at all? I don't mind being charged for a good product. Let me know when we have one.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Spence

I mentioned it once. As for ticket and parking prices, those are legitimate issues. Snyder sets those prices. If we can't hold Snyder responsible for his own decisions, what's the point of being allowed to discuss him at all? I don't mind being charged for a good product. Let me know when we have one.

If you check around, you'll find it's outrageous to see ANY NFL team. I don't know if we are the highest or not. HOWEVER, if you don't want to deal with that..........don't go. Simple, right?
AND.....last time I checked, there were about 100k people waiting for ticks
HTTR

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Hog1

If you check around, you'll find it's outrageous to see ANY NFL team. I don't know if we are the highest or not. HOWEVER, if you don't want to deal with that..........don't go. Simple, right?
AND.....last time I checked, there were about 100k people waiting for ticks
HTTR

I've already taken your sound advice. I've sold my tickets this season. I'm not stupid enough to pay for what has accurately been described as one of the worst game day experiences in American sports. I did that for 10 years. That was enough, thank you.

And no, there are not 100K people waiting for tickets. In fact, there might not be anyone waiting for tickets. Just another Snyder lie. Read it.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Spence

I've already taken your sound advice. I've sold my tickets this season. I'm not stupid enough to pay for what has accurately been described as one of the worst game day experiences in American sports. I did that for 10 years. That was enough, thank you.

And no, there are not 100K people waiting for tickets. In fact, there might not be anyone waiting for tickets. Just another Snyder lie. Read it.

I got on the waiting list 3 or 4 years ago and at that time I was like #110,000 in line. Things may have changed since then.
BTW, do you consider yourself a Skins fan?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Spence

I've already taken your sound advice. I've sold my tickets this season. I'm not stupid enough to pay for what has accurately been described as one of the worst game day experiences in American sports. I did that for 10 years. That was enough, thank you.

And no, there are not 100K people waiting for tickets. In fact, there might not be anyone waiting for tickets. Just another Snyder lie. Read it.

You can call that a Redskins lie if you want, but it is not a Snyder lie.

What's amazing is how Snyder can make a mistake, say he made the mistake and it's like no one listens

Admitted to making a mistake in firing Turner in season (again, that was mainly Drasner's doing), admitted to charging fans admission, admitted to making a mistake in not keeping Casserly.

Snyder's biggest weakness, which I believe he has gotten much better at in recent years but I wish he would still be better, is that he has to separate Snyder the Redskins fan from Snyder the Redskins owner. In fact, he really can't be a fan of the team anymore. Not the way we all are. We can be dimwits, he can't be. Snyder a few years ago would have been like your everyday, irrational fan and fired Zorn the minute the final whistle blew on Sunday without a thought to who would be head coach, offensive coordinator, and QB coach. Now...he doesn't make such decisions.

This is why I always say I'm spending my billions on buying the Eagles. I don't care if they're awful forever

[redsk1]

DS has been here for 10 years and his WL record is mediocre at best. You might say, well he tries, so we've got to give him that! When is the last time you got a raise for trying your best? You get promotions thru results and our results have been average.

Now, i'm glad we have an owner that at least attempts to be the best. I'll give him that. We also have an owner that can't seem to bring himself to structure our organization which gives us the best chance to win. He can't bring himself to make changes for the best of our organization. See Marty. See Vinny Cerrato.

If you don't change, expect the same results. We've been getting the same results for 10 years.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Snyder has been receiving a lot of negative backlash after this loss to the Lions. Everyone should lighten up because Snyder isn't such a bad guy. Though it's hard to find some things that ingratiate him right now check out this article from last year.

The cellphone trick he pulls is just hiliarious!...too funny...Snyder's not so bad.

It's a rich rivalry for Dallas Cowboys, Redskins owners: Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder are friendly rivals

Well, kudos to you for trying to post some light hearted material. As you can see it's been killed by the debbie downers. Waahhhh - waahhhhh

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well, kudos to you for trying to post some light hearted material. As you can see it's been killed by the debbie downers. Waahhhh - waahhhhh

Debbie Downers? Good one. I thought you said Snyder was the problem this morning. I guess this afternoon, that changed?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Debbie Downers? Good one. I thought you said Snyder was the problem this morning. I guess this afternoon, that changed?

That was a different thread. This one started off more as a joke and quickly turned into your typical Snyder hating 101.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That was a different thread. This one started off more as a joke and quickly turned into your typical Snyder hating 101.

First it was just kind of pointing out the close relationship that he has with Jerry Jones and that fact that they go on vacations with each other and share vacation homes between the families. Snyder also makes a point to sit next to Jerry Jones during the owners meetings too.

It's great that cowboys and redskins can get along but really...I possess some MAJOR distaste for Jerry Jones and the whole cowboys organization. Hearing that it's just a business that they're pals just kind of rubs salt in the wound that the cowboys are more competitive than we are.

I thought others would be disgusted by the fact that Snyder pretty much loves him some cowboys...the rivalry doesn't mean much to him at the top.

From the bottom I don't take solace in finding that out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

First it was just kind of pointing out the close relationship that he has with Jerry Jones and that fact that they go on vacations with each other and share vacation homes between the families. Snyder also makes a point to sit next to Jerry Jones during the owners meetings too.

It's great that cowboys and redskins can get along but really...I possess some MAJOR distaste for Jerry Jones and the whole cowboys organization. Hearing that it's just a business that they're pals just kind of rubs salt in the wound that the cowboys are more competitive than we are.

I thought others would be disgusted by the fact that Snyder pretty much loves him some cowboys...the rivalry doesn't mean much to him at the top.

From the bottom I don't take solace in finding that out.

Meh, you can be friends with someone but also be respectful rivals.

The league ownership circle is pretty tight, there's only 32 of them in the world. They have to work together on a lot of issues and naturally there's going to be some relationships there even between rivals. That's not to say Danny doesn't want to own them on gamedays.

It's fun to hate on people you don't know, but for all we know Jerry could be a decent guy. Just saying. And why are the Cowboys more competitive than we are if Snyder and Jones are pals??

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

First it was just kind of pointing out the close relationship that he has with Jerry Jones and that fact that they go on vacations with each other and share vacation homes between the families. Snyder also makes a point to sit next to Jerry Jones during the owners meetings too.

It's great that cowboys and redskins can get along but really...I possess some MAJOR distaste for Jerry Jones and the whole cowboys organization. Hearing that it's just a business that they're pals just kind of rubs salt in the wound that the cowboys are more competitive than we are.

I thought others would be disgusted by the fact that Snyder pretty much loves him some cowboys...the rivalry doesn't mean much to him at the top.

From the bottom I don't take solace in finding that out.

Dude, have you ever played a game, fantasy football, etc., with friends? Have you ever competed hard with your friends to win yet you remain friends?

The fact is, Snyder's friendship with Jerry Jones does not mean that they can't feel a rivalry. In fact, their friendship might make the rivalry more intense between them. Friendship of a certain type may do that.

[GusFrerotte]

Snyder deserves some heat. He runs the show and the show hasn't been too fun to watch for the most part. Even Gibbs 2.0 wasn't such a great show. Right now I feel that it doesn't matter who the HC is. The Skins will be mediocre until a proper FO is put in place with a concrete plan on turning the team into a winner again. Snyder needs to get a young coach that can be here a long time, put in a system, and draft the players that fit the system. Never really had that here post Norv, with the exception of Gibbs with JC as starting QB.

[CRedskinsRule]

I would love to see most of you anti-snyder people put in his shoes. if so, chances are in more than half the cases, we fans would go through several years of chasing last year's hot names (look at the fire zorn now thread, or JC sucks threads). and then we would probably go through a couple of years of bring back the glory days, look at people calling for Grimm(he may be the right answer, but a part of the hell yeah sentiment is rooted in his traditions with the Skins), and then if we are honest with ourselves we might try to bring in a FO guy we trust and give him more freedom, even with our input.
I say this, and I believe it, that Snyder is still growing learning, and desperately wants a SB Trophy. It may take a while but I believe he will eventually bring one to DC

[beemnsevenspop]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would love to see most of you anti-snyder people put in his shoes. if so, chances are in more than half the cases, we fans would go through several years of chasing last year's hot names (look at the fire zorn now thread, or JC sucks threads). and then we would probably go through a couple of years of bring back the glory days, look at people calling for Grimm(he may be the right answer, but a part of the hell yeah sentiment is rooted in his traditions with the Skins), and then if we are honest with ourselves we might try to bring in a FO guy we trust and give him more freedom, even with our input.
I say this, and I believe it, that Snyder is still growing learning, and desperately wants a SB Trophy. It may take a while but I believe he will eventually bring one to DC

I'd like to see me in his shoes too, as long as his wallet was part of the deal. As far as a SB trophy is concerned, even HE doesn't have the necessary funds to buy one -which is how he views the means for its acquisition.