Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Broncos)

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Unfortunately, people want a QB that will put the game on his shoulders and win it for the team. Fans tend to forget that we're a running team and we expect the running game to win for us (just like with teams like the Cards and the Colts, you never expect their running games to win the game).

I think the problem is the WCO. This is the Redskins. We played like the Redskins Sunday. All the cutesy stuff is not for top 5 defenses. When Zorn started 6-2 it was running Gibbs offense. Zorn was supposed to keep Gibbs offense and help us with the passing game. He screwed everything up. We are just getting our senses back.

Everybody wants a Brett Farve, Brady, or Manning. Most teams don't have that. They do have playeers in other posisitons that are extraordinary. Please stop with the roster envy.

[SirClintonPortis]

Colt wouldn't see the damn field until both Collins and Campbell go bye-bye in a game if he was on the roster. Campbell has one of those durable bodies and Collins probably knows what to do better than any other QB on the team.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I think the problem is the WCO. This is the Redskins. We played like the Redskins Sunday. All the cutesy stuff is not for top 5 defenses. When Zorn started 6-2 it was running Gibbs offense. Zorn was supposed to keep Gibbs offense and help us with the passing game. He screwed everything up. We are just getting our senses back.

Everybody wants a Brett Farve, Brady, or Manning. Most teams don't have that. They do have playeers in other posisitons that are extraordinary. Please stop with the roster envy.

Keep in mind, Vinny was the one who wanted to change offense system to WCO system.. Therefore, Zorn was just trying to do his job.. Apparently, Vinny isn't backing up this theory; which probably is the reason why Sherm, Sherm and Zorn re going back to old school style..

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Unfortunately, people want a QB that will put the game on his shoulders and win it for the team. Fans tend to forget that we're a running team and we expect the running game to win for us (just like with teams like the Cards and the Colts, you never expect their running games to win the game).

You can only be a running team as much as your players allow for it. We have seen some success going with more runs, but also with different personnel taking those hand-offs. Too many variables right now to say why it's working better. Things that appear to be helping: Levi Jones in.. Rinehart back in.. I'll also tie in better upfield blocking; Betts and Cartwright hitting holes fast and hard and fighting for extra yards; the run defenses we've played, etc

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Honestly I would hate to see where we would be at with CB in there.

I think yesterday showed that with a good running game and decent protection JC can manage the game and give us enough from the QB spot to win.

Absolutely not! Just because we won a game don't start thinking that this guy is good enough to win with. We matched up well with Denver. That's why I picked the Skins to win. We're not going to be able to run the ball like that against most teams. The fact that Denver had go with the incompetent Chris Simms at QB in the second half may have been the biggest factor in the Redskins win.

As usual, Campbell missed more big plays than he made (such as the overthrow of Moss and the failure to see a wide open Yoder). He was inaccurate for most of the game but he was bailed out by others (like Kelly's great catch on a ball thrown behind him by Campbell on a short crossing pattern on third down.)

Campbell drops back slowly, he doesn't see the field well, he's indecisive, he has a slow release, he's inaccurate, he has no touch, he throws a flat deep ball, and he's not a leader.

Campbell has to go. He should not be signed again after this season. We have enough bad contracts.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Absolutely not! Just because we won a game don't start thinking that this guy is good enough to win with. We matched up well with Denver. That's why I picked the Skins to win. We're not going to be able to run the ball like that against most teams. The fact that Denver had go with the incompetent Chris Simms at QB in the second half may have been the biggest factor in the Redskins win.

As usual, Campbell missed more big plays than he made (such as the overthrow of Moss and the failure to see a wide open Yoder). He was inaccurate for most of the game but he was bailed out by others (like Kelly's great catch on a ball thrown behind him by Campbell on a short crossing pattern on third down.)

Campbell drops back slowly, he doesn't see the field well, he's indecisive, he has a slow release, he's inaccurate, he has no touch, he throws a flat deep ball, and he's not a leader.

Campbell has to go. He should not be signed again after this season. We have enough bad contracts.

See I'm sorry but you sound unintelligent here...what part of this post:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Honestly I would hate to see where we would be at with CB in there.

I think yesterday showed that with a good running game and decent protection JC can manage the game and give us enough from the QB spot to win.

Tells you that Campbell should be signed after this season? Did he say that? No. No one is, so get over it.

[KI Skins Fan]

[quote=Ruhskins;626244]See I'm sorry but you sound unintelligent here...what part of this post:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Honestly I would hate to see where we would be at with CB in there.

I think yesterday showed that with a good running game and decent protection JC can manage the game and give us enough from the QB spot to win.[/QUOTE

Tells you that Campbell should be signed after this season? Did he say that? No. No one is, so get over it.

That's a coincidence because you sound unintelligent to me, as well. And rude, too!

If Campbell is good enough to win with, why wouldn't he be signed again?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

That's a coincidence because you sound unintelligent to me, as well. And rude, too!

If Campbell is good enough to win with, why wouldn't he be signed again?

Because the ownership clearly doesn't see him as the QB of the future.

Because right now at best we'll be an 8-8 team, and with the start that we've had Snyder will likely fire Zorn regardless.

Because not only would we need to run the table to get the last wildcard spot, but we would need a whole bunch of people to lose.

So once again, what part of Matty's statement specifically told you that Jason Campbell should be signed next year?

[davy]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Campbell drops back slowly, he doesn't see the field well, he's indecisive, he has a slow release, he's inaccurate, he has no touch, he throws a flat deep ball, and he's not a leader.

Succinct and accurate.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Campbell drops back slowly, he doesn't see the field well, he's indecisive, he has a slow release, he's inaccurate, he has no touch, he throws a flat deep ball, and he's not a leader.

But other than that a very fine player

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Honestly I would hate to see where we would be at with CB in there.

I think yesterday showed that with a good running game and decent protection JC can manage the game and give us enough from the QB spot to win.

Yeah, even though he was inconsistent, this is true.

I really think he can be a above average QB in this league, but the ish he's gone through with this franchise means it won't be here; the 'Skins and him need to part ways. Too bad. I'm confident he's gonna shine in another club that'll take the time to help him get over the heebie-jeebies with which this organization has saddled him.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Honestly I would hate to see where we would be at with CB in there.

I think yesterday showed that with a good running game and decent protection JC can manage the game and give us enough from the QB spot to win.

Yesterday showed me a QB that our coaches did not trust so they put it on the our RB to win the game.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yesterday showed me a QB that our coaches did not trust so they put it on the our RB to win the game.

What game were YOU watching? Was it the one where 'a QB that our coaches did not trust' went 9-9 in the 2nd half and led them to a come from behind victory? Just curious.

[MTK]

The lower stance is all about JC staying lower and keeping his knees bent so he's in a better position to throw, take off running, whatever. Zorn felt he was playing too tall previously.

[ChickenMonkey]

Im wondering, if JC cant hit Santana on the deep routes...Why dont they move Moss to the slot and use him like Wes Welker....Several other guys can play wide out...the Wo isnt getting the ball anyway....