I'm So Done With...

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ditto. Mainly, I think all these guys care about the Skins, and try to do their best, it's just that their best is not what we want it to be, or what they think of themselves. But Carlos has left the station. Maybe because of his coordinator's lack of respect for him, maybe because he is "so over it". But I am quite content if he never plays another down in a Skins uniform. Really, I didn't even realize he had been benched, and our d still held it's own. I suppose this week will be a good test, but I would rather see him benched then getting burned because he didn't give a damn.

I'm so done with Redskins fans that forget about Sean Taylor's passing and how Portis carreid this team. I am so done with Redskins fans who have no loyalty. You don't trade Moss after that come back 4th quarter victory over Dallas while Joe Gibbs was the coach? Moss and Portis should end their careers here. We can get a young RB and let him and Portis play until Portis fades away. No problem with free spirits why Riggo was here why is Portis being flamboyant a problem. No loyalty!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

I'm so done with Redskins fans that forget about Sean Taylor's passing and how Portis carreid this team. I am so done with Redskins fans who have no loyalty. You don't trade Moss after that come back 4th quarter victory over Dallas while Joe Gibbs was the coach? Moss and Portis should end their careers here. We can get a young RB and let him and Portis play until Portis fades away. No problem with free spirits why Riggo was here why is Portis being flamboyant a problem. No loyalty!

I'm so done with fans that don't understand the point of a particular thread

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who's that one high-profile starter on this team that you've just had enough of and you want him gone by season's end if not sooner?

Ignore all salary cap concerns, and who will replace him, and what it means for other needs.

This is just about raw emotion. It's just that guy you simply wish wasn't a part of your favorite team

(for this one, I made the votes public)

Just play along or don't post anything at all if you have a problem with a thread, ok?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Rogers for me, easy choice. No tolerance for quitters.

You're right! That is the worst thing a player can do. I should have voted Rogers.

[davy]

As much as I dislike Campbell, Portis and Landry I had to vote Rogers.

I never had a problem with him dropping picks as long as he was shutting down receivers, but now he isn't even doing that and he clearly wants out of here so he can go rot somewhere else.

I have no problems at all with El as a receiver. It's not his fault he keeps being asked to return punts when he clearly isn't any good at it.

[MTK]

Easy for me, Rogers.

He's inconsistent and his hands are some of the worst we've seen.

[joethiesmanfan]

Rogers, he keep getting beat. He's in a contract year, and then he whines about it.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Rogers, he keep getting beat. He's in a contract year, and then he whines about it.

where's your loyalty?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

where's your loyalty?

He has never earned it.

[Chico23231]

Went with ARE horrible, horrible contract for the production we have gotten. Below average receiver and return man...actually if the entire list was cut after this year I could care less at this point

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Went with ARE horrible, horrible contract for the production we have gotten. Below average receiver and return man...actually if the entire list was cut after this year I could care less at this point

He's crap as a punt returner, and his contract is way too high. But he plays hard, is a good locker-room guy, runs strong routes, and is an effective slot receiver.

Are we probably better off with him gone and moving forward with Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell? Perhaps

But he's not a guy I'm anxious to see go just to see him go.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's crap as a punt returner, and his contract is way too high. But he plays hard, is a good locker-room guy, runs strong routes, and is an effective slot receiver.

Are we probably better off with him gone and moving forward with Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell? Perhaps

But he's not a guy I'm anxious to see go just to see him go.

If his contract was more reasonable I think he would have more fans, some just can't get past the contract which isn't his fault in the end anyway. What was he supposed to do turn down the ridiculous offer the team gave him?

My one gripe is just get him off returns already, please Danny Smith!

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If his contract was more reasonable I think he would have more fans, some just can't get past the contract which isn't his fault in the end anyway. What was he supposed to do turn down the ridiculous offer the team gave him?

My one gripe is just get him off returns already, please Danny Smith!

Yeah, I don't think people are hating on ARE for the hell of it. The contract and his punt returns are the main sticking points. I must say, when given the chance he has shown up in the slot position.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's crap as a punt returner, and his contract is way too high. But he plays hard, is a good locker-room guy, runs strong routes, and is an effective slot receiver.

Are we probably better off with him gone and moving forward with Kelly, Thomas, and Mitchell? Perhaps

But he's not a guy I'm anxious to see go just to see him go.

Yeah, Ive heard he is a really great locker room guy which is important. And really it was a toss up between him, Portis and Rogers. I would say the least cut-able at this point is Moss and Laron. I think Laron value would increase in another scheme (which the likelyhood of Blache returning is low at this point). On an offense with no playmakers, Moss is all we have. I actually would rather have Moss in the slot at this point, with a reliable vet WR at his spot and one of the following to step up: Thomas/Kelly/Marko at the other starting position for next season. I think our WR position over the past decade has really lacked. We always have one solid starter, but we can never get two solid guys on the field at the sametime. Moss really catches alot of grief b/c of the overall production of WR, which I think is a little unfair. Rogers is gone reagardless at this point. Portis is showing all the signs of a career winding down.

[Hamoskinz]

I voted Clinton Portis. Not on the grounds that I am angry at him because the guy gives 150% but on the grounds that he is holding our offense back. We certainly look better with Betts in there so his non-practice routine is detrimental in terms of our chemistry & execution of our offense cause Betts is practicing it everyday and Portis expects to execute it on Sundays.

Also, it is not good for team cohesion to train and practice all week while one or 2 superstars sit and drink koolaid and then come in and start ahead of those that have busted their butts off during the week. I bet those o-linemen resent that fact that Portis doesn't practice his cuts and running lanes with them but gets angry & disses the line on Sunday when things go wrong. I know I would if he did that.

However, the player I'm angry at and would like to see gone is Carlos Rogers. The guy doesn't care. Last year he made similar overtones when he got benched and again last week. He sounds and plays like a quitter. If he wants out, I'm fine with that. I rather settle for a 3rd compensatory pick by letting him go than him sulking around Redskin Park and deliberately giving up on coverage and wasting our great defensive efforts.

[Longtimefan]

I voted Portis for a variety of reasons, but mainly because there always seems to be a shroud of controversy surrounding him that usually has negative overtones, negativity the team can very well do without in these troubled times.

On the other hand, there have been times during the course of this season when a case could be made for everyone on the list, they've all been highly scrutinized at one time or another.