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Old 12-06-2009, 07:00 PM   #1
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good post, I was wondering why we didn't let it go down to the two minute warning, and I wondered why not try a fade right there, time wise an incomplete at that point would not matter. But MOSTLY I agree, the team as a whole just doesn't know how to win. Change that (i don't know how) and We see a much different season next year.
Well one team is playing for home field advantage throughout the playoffs...and we're playing for pride. Still there were so many intangibles outside of the team's control that it was inside.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:21 PM   #2
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The coach is responsible for W and L...Zorn is it.

I was frankly freaking out...why would a coach run a running play with 2:03 left to go on essentially a 3rd and goal at the 5.
There is no advantage of running to run down the clock..only a moron, or a rookie coach would make such a mistake....especially when you are 3-8 going against a 11-0 team...you attack.....mind numbing.
Say what you want about Swishy...but this game was lost by coaching and lame turnovers....more importantly....it was lost because this team continues to believe no matter the situation, they will lose...that is a leadership issue.
This defense continues to blow 4th quarter leads...this in not a solid defense.
Good defenses are defined by how they play with the game on the line...
3 week in a row...they blow the last drive.
incredible....I am resorting to drinking to deal with my anger....not good AT ALL!!
Chill..this argument has come up on the radio too but the coaching staff made the right call..At that point you don't need a touchdown. A field goal makes it a two possession game just as a touchdown does. So, the coaches play it safe and just run the ball. If you get a TD great but if you don't its not a big deal. Don't risk a pick or a sack that could cause a fumble or make a longer field goal than you have at the moment. Also, the skins could not run the clock to the 2 minute warning. When the play clock began running the was a 1 second differential bn it and the game clock so they had to run a play there. I don't think playing it safe and putting the game winning score on a 23-yard field goal is bad coaching. It's smart coaching. They ran the clock down as far as they could have and put themselves in a position to have a 10 point lead, giving the ball back to NO with no timeouts left...
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:26 PM   #3
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

A 23 yard field goal is basically an extra point. An NFL kicker should make that 99 times out of 100 or maybe even 999 times out of 1000.

Suisham gets paid to be automatic on that kick.

For me that's pretty much the end of the story.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:34 PM   #4
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Chill..this argument has come up on the radio too but the coaching staff made the right call..At that point you don't need a touchdown. A field goal makes it a two possession game just as a touchdown does. So, the coaches play it safe and just run the ball. If you get a TD great but if you don't its not a big deal. Don't risk a pick or a sack that could cause a fumble or make a longer field goal than you have at the moment. Also, the skins could not run the clock to the 2 minute warning. When the play clock began running the was a 1 second differential bn it and the game clock so they had to run a play there. I don't think playing it safe and putting the game winning score on a 23-yard field goal is bad coaching. It's smart coaching. They ran the clock down as far as they could have and put themselves in a position to have a 10 point lead, giving the ball back to NO with no timeouts left...
I stopped reading after the bolded line. This coaching staff, this team needs to get a killer attitude. Yes maybe the run was not the end of the world, but right there, at that moment, you take the shot. throw it away, heck take a sack, but take the dang shot into the endzone! one play, one call(probably on lewis) but take it. I understand the logic of the run, but this team needs to get a spark, and settling for the safe route at 3-8, just doesn't cut it. Take the shot, make a play. Let the offense finish what they were doing, they had a good game, and deserved to take the shot to win it.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:59 AM   #5
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Chill..this argument has come up on the radio too but the coaching staff made the right call..At that point you don't need a touchdown. A field goal makes it a two possession game just as a touchdown does. So, the coaches play it safe and just run the ball. If you get a TD great but if you don't its not a big deal. Don't risk a pick or a sack that could cause a fumble or make a longer field goal than you have at the moment. Also, the skins could not run the clock to the 2 minute warning. When the play clock began running the was a 1 second differential bn it and the game clock so they had to run a play there. I don't think playing it safe and putting the game winning score on a 23-yard field goal is bad coaching. It's smart coaching. They ran the clock down as far as they could have and put themselves in a position to have a 10 point lead, giving the ball back to NO with no timeouts left...
Yea and also mention how many teams get a int and have the offense strip the ball and run it for a TD. Only in DC this BS is happening . Why take another risk in throwing the ball when all you need is a fg to go up 2 scores.
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Old 12-06-2009, 06:55 PM   #6
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I know the Saints are an amazing offense, but 3 times our offense had a 10 point lead on them. And our offense scored 30 points for the first time in how long? The defense gets the blame for not holding a lead. And Suisham just oughta get the boot.
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

suisham, moore, and whoever got really conservative at the end.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:44 PM   #8
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

I also understand the login of a nail in the coffin to put a team away by scoring a touchdown, and I don't there is a wrong answer here. It's six in one hand and a half-dozen in the other. A touchdown would have been awesome. I wanted to see a 37 on the scoreboard but I think the decision to play it safe and kick also looked worse based on the fact that SS missed the darn kick. Gotta hit that kick to avoid the pointing fingers debate which we got here.
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:38 PM   #9
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

Shaun Suisham
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:16 PM   #10
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

Shuisham, if we had a better kicker, we would be 5-7 instead of 3-9
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:49 PM   #11
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

The New Orleans Saints. Just sayin'
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

Landry 55%, Suisham 45%
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:54 PM   #13
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

We're talking a handful of kicks this year, and maybe this team is .500. No excuses.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:55 PM   #14
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

No one person in my book. This was again a rather creative way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It is a shame however that our qb can never seem to go out and save us from our selves.

F the Redskins!
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:15 PM   #15
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Re: Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?

Andre Carter. On the Moore strip for a TD, Carter had Brees dead to rights, but Brees stiff-armed him to the ground. Just being different
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