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Old 12-13-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

I'm on the "rebuild the o-line, keep Campbell" argument but it worries me everytime I hear the media giving Zorn and Campbell praise for the way they've handled things lately and then they say it's a shame neither will be here next year after everything that's gone down. I think we have much major problems than qb, and I'd hate to see him leave after it looks like everything is finally coming together after everything that went down.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:57 PM   #2
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I'm on the "rebuild the o-line, keep Campbell" argument but it worries me everytime I hear the media giving Zorn and Campbell praise for the way they've handled things lately and then they say it's a shame neither will be here next year after everything that's gone down. I think we have much major problems than qb, and I'd hate to see him leave after it looks like everything is finally coming together after everything that went down.
Ever since the 2nd half of the Falcons game the team has been playing like it should have all year (yes, there's been lots of screw ups, but they've been in every game). At this point I would say, keep Campbell and Zorn, rebuild the OL, promote Jerry Gray to DC and Sherm Lewis to OC and of course FIRE VINNY!!
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:57 PM   #3
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

Didn't experts say it would take 3 years to successful install and grasp the WCO. Well next year will be year 3 keep JC, Zorn, & Lewis.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:04 PM   #4
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

Maybe the most indicting thing about Zorny: it does appear that Vinny built some sort of a fringe playoff team here.

Now, though that might sound like heresy, it's probably completely unfair to assume that Zorn should have known that the right moves involved not playing Portis, moving the focus of the offense away from Moss, playing Fred Davis and Devin Thomas, and not putting so much faith in a defense that we just poured even more mega bucks into. There's no coach who would have figured this out in time to start 4-2 instead of 2-4. But, again, that's not really Cerrato's fault, is it?
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:24 PM   #5
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Maybe the most indicting thing about Zorny: it does appear that Vinny built some sort of a fringe playoff team here.

Now, though that might sound like heresy, it's probably completely unfair to assume that Zorn should have known that the right moves involved not playing Portis, moving the focus of the offense away from Moss, playing Fred Davis and Devin Thomas, and not putting so much faith in a defense that we just poured even more mega bucks into. There's no coach who would have figured this out in time to start 4-2 instead of 2-4. But, again, that's not really Cerrato's fault, is it?
I think it is indicative of a breakdown in understanding what we have. It is baffling to me that we've considered Moss a true WR1 here for the last 3 years. He has done little in his career to be a #1 anywhere in all honesty. That coupled with the even more baflfing blindness to the Oline issues and curious appraisal of the secondary and it comes down to this. Either the coaching staff, the FO, or both aren't very good at evaluating how good of a team we have. Or at least how good the pieces are. You look around at this team and can't really identify someone who is vastly under-performing what could have reasonably been expected of them.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:29 PM   #6
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

I'm starting to really believe that it's imperative we sign Campbell; he's improving every game, all after Lewis became our "offense coordinator" but we definitely have to give other two coaches some credits too.. I won't be able to fathom if Vinny doesn't try to resign Campbell and draft a #1 LT; the pieces are there but we just need to adjust a little bit with an additional new lineman..
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:58 PM   #7
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I'm starting to really believe that it's imperative we sign Campbell; he's improving every game, all after Lewis became our "offense coordinator" but we definitely have to give other two coaches some credits too.. I won't be able to fathom if Vinny doesn't try to resign Campbell and draft a #1 LT; the pieces are there but we just need to adjust a little bit with an additional new lineman..

GridIron - I agree except for one word in your post - you needed to say linmen not lineman - this team needs a new LT, RT, C and RG. Samuels is most likely to retire and you cannot count on Randy Thomas being able to play a whole year with as many serious injuries a he has had now. Heyer is "just a guy" who does not scare any defense and Rabach is getting beat like a red headed stepchild too often. Jason Campbell is lucky he is still able to walk and the beating he is taking makes it all the more important that at least two starters if not 3 are found in the offseason. Dockery is your only mainstay on this line and he is starting to get up in years as well but we can live with him.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:38 PM   #8
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GridIron - I agree except for one word in your post - you needed to say linmen not lineman - this team needs a new LT, RT, C and RG. Samuels is most likely to retire and you cannot count on Randy Thomas being able to play a whole year with as many serious injuries a he has had now. Heyer is "just a guy" who does not scare any defense and Rabach is getting beat like a red headed stepchild too often. Jason Campbell is lucky he is still able to walk and the beating he is taking makes it all the more important that at least two starters if not 3 are found in the offseason. Dockery is your only mainstay on this line and he is starting to get up in years as well but we can live with him.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:01 PM   #9
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We're still here, he's played what one good game, he's still slow to me with his decisions, which is huge for any QB. He still hasn't really complete a long 40+ yard pass, to my knowledge, and you need those cause that gives your team even more mojo. His ball security in the pocket has gotten better, but then again he's gone against the raiders today, and they don't really scare you with there pass rushers. I don't think he'll be back next year simply because I don't see Zorn here next year, they tried to get rid of campbell last year, and already Snyderatto was scouting Colt McCoy (god I hope we DONT get him).
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:09 PM   #10
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

Keep Jason and lets build a solid O-Line around him. If we draft another qb we are going to rebuild at a minimum of 2-3 years. Personally, I am sick and tired of rebuilding.
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Old 12-13-2009, 09:26 PM   #11
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

I got a question.
Do you all Resign Levi Jones and keep him as our LT and Draft a really good tackle in the first round like Russell Okung and put him as a RT?
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I got a question.
Do you all Resign Levi Jones and keep him as our LT and Draft a really good tackle in the first round like Russell Okung and put him as a RT?
Why not, he's proven to be better than Heyer. At least he adds some depth.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:51 PM   #13
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Re: Campbell Needs To Be Cut

How about that Cutler up in Chicago, man he is lighting it up...all you cutler fans, where are you now?
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How about that Cutler up in Chicago, man he is lighting it up...all you cutler fans, where are you now?
Thank god that trade didn't happen, it would have been catastrophic. Cutler is the most over rated QB in the NFL, just like the guy that drafted him, can you say Shanahan.
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How about that Cutler up in Chicago, man he is lighting it up...all you cutler fans, where are you now?
what a disaster that loser is. 22 picks. Jeff George reincarnated.
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