RUMOR: Trade talks between Browns (Brady Quinn) and Broncos (Brandon Marshall)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Marshall is a fringe No. 1 who clearly has the talent to be so much more. So many of his catches in any given game are of the useless variety.

He was a lot improved this year with Orton at QB I thought because instead of being a limiting factor on his quarterback when Cutler was there, he became a positive factor for Orton who doesn't have the type of downfield accuracy that Cutler does.

But ultimately, Marshall's catch rate numbers and other value metrics are the same every year, which means that, even though his improvements have been evident, we really do know what he is at this point. And he's not a "true" No. 1, like an Owens, Moss, Wayne, Holt, or Vincent Jackson all in their primes. Like Braylon, he's an above average player who is expendable at a good price.

Sorry Tripp but I don't judge guys on metrics. And neither does anyone that plays in the NFL. Above average players simply don't catch 20 + passes on two different occasion, put up 100 + catches 3 years in a row. It just doesn't happen. I mean the guy had 100 catches w/ Kyle Orton as his QB, plus he missed a game. His credentials on the field speak for themsleves. We haven't seen that type of production at the WR spot since the Posse days. You may not know what he is at this point but I think the rest of the NFL does. And I can promise you the NFL and the guys who defend him don't think of Brandon Marshall as an above average player.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

All I care about is getting BM in a Redskin uniform.

No way Brian Mitchell is coming back.

[HugeMonkFan]

i would like to also see him as a redskin but i cant see giving up a bunch of picks for him either...we need our 4th pick to get the best possible youngster we can get (am i allowed to use the term youngster since im only 28 lol)

[Lotus]

Brandon Marshall has a history of not getting along with Shanny (and McDaniels, too). BM is not comin' to D.C.

[SmootSmack]

Marshall is an unbelievable talent, but it's a stretch to say that he is a "must have" for us. In four years in Denver, the Broncos never made the playoffs, finished above 500 (9-7) only once and the offense never finished in the top half of the NFL.

[diehardskin2982]

not sure if the skins are in the market for Marshall. Not matter how much the fans want him to be here. He is obviously a tool, who doesn't work well with his coaches.

[HugeMonkFan]

BM just needs to grow up...then he will be the best player he can be...but until he gets past being "baby t.o" then its not gonna happen.

[over the mountain]

id like to know once and for all just what we offered in teh 3 way broncos-skins-browns trade.

it has been reported we didnt want to give up 2 firsts, it has been reported that "the compensation was there" (meaning same as bears offer) but the broncos valued it as quinn, orton then JC as their qb wish list.

i guess we will never really know, but id like to. not that any of it matters anymore.

[hail_2_da_skins]

First of all, let's look at everyone that's involved in this rumor. The Browns, this is a totally dysfunctional outfit. Aren't they the same team that can't seem to come up with a decent contract for their best player, Joshua Cribbs? The Broncos, isn't this the same team that kicked Shanahan to the curb, pissed off their all Pro quarterback and was forced to trade him to the Bears? Brandon Marshall, isn't this the same player that refused to show up for training camp/practice and threatened to not play? Brady Quinn, isn't this the bum that was drafted first round out of Notre Dame and couldn't nail down the starting quarterback job in Cleveland over Derek Anderson? They are all misfits. Orton is no better or worse than Quinn.

[MTK]

I thought Shanahan tried trading him away at one point? The guy is talented, but definitely a bit of a problem child.

[dmek25]

he was actually thinking about cutting him. doesn't that tell you something about Marshall?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by dmek25

he was actually thinking about cutting him. doesn't that tell you something about Marshall?

Yeah that's bad since Shanahan is known for giving bad character guys a chance

[DIE-NASTY]

There's no way the Bronco's trade Marshall for Quinn.(Why would the Broncos want to trade with the Browns again? Didn't they learn their lesson when they traded for their entire defensive line a few years back?)

If he is traded, teams like the Ravens or the Dolphins look like a better match. They both need a big-time WR and that might put them over the edge to competing for a championship.

[DIE-NASTY]

I don't know man. Denver didn't have much of a running game, Eddie Royal didn't put up the same production he did a year ago, Scheffler is on a milk carton in MCD offense and BM is the reason Orton had so much success (he did better than Cutler in Chi-town).

My idea of a No. 1 WR is he's the guy who catches the ball when the defense knows he's getting the ball. To catch 100 passes three straight years is special. Marvin Harrison and Jerry Rice (he caught 100 passes 1994-1996 seasons) pulled it off and they're both going to be HOFers. Wes Welker has done it. Sterling Sharpe (and he was damn good) caught 100 passes in consecutive years but never three years in a row.

If we hadn't mortgaged away our draft picks so foolishly away the past few years, I'd say make a move. Maybe we can trade back and make draft-day trade for BM (I'd give up a middle 2nd not our current pick but preferably a 3rd or less for the guy). Odds are someone is going to get BM for next to nothing compared to what they'll get out of the guy.

I'd rather trade two prospects which is what draft picks are for a proven player any day.

[HugeMonkFan]

but see the thing is we have other players, moss, cooley, various rbs to where he wont have to be a 1/3 of our offense...im confused how you say he didnt produce but he was a third of denvers offense. thats like saying matt forte didnt produce 2 years ago or chris johnson didnt this year. I agree that he doesnt HAVE to be doubled every play like Andre Johnson, Randy Moss and the like but hes getting there.