Redskins trading out of the 4 spot?

[celts32]

Landry is one of the few players on this roster i do not want to trade. I want to see what he can become with a move back to SS and some new coaching.

Also Marshall is the type of "me" player i was hoping we were moving away from.

[GusFrerotte]

In love with Brennan? How? The guy was on IR the whole season and the only thing that saved him was Daniel was a shorty!!!!! Not much to evaluate a QB, much less say you love him. I can see the other trades go down, but you are taking a big risk in trading JC. Thing is he is your only real viable starter material you have with lots of playing experience. Not saying JC should necessarily be the starter, but you should have a vet backup. Zac Robinson? Are you shitting me? I would get Lefevour or Kafka over him. Shoot I might take a gamble with Elliot out of Purdue.

[GusFrerotte]

IF they are going to get anything for Moss they better do it now. They already might have missed the opportunity to get anything of real value for shopping Portis around.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

IF they are going to get anything for Moss they better do it now. They already might have missed the opportunity to get anything of real value for shopping Portis around.

If Greg Lewis was worth a 5th rounder last offseason to the Patriots, I'm sure Moss would be worth more to a WR-hungry team (i.e. Bears).

[#56fanatic]

I would love to see this. Pick up a later 1st, and either a 2nd or 3rd. That would be great in my eyes. That could get you two starting tackles and a RB or CB that makes a solid contributions. Hell maybe even one of the Shanahan late round RB studs.

[ethat001]

Interesting offseason rumors. Love it. Sure, I've been reading these in the offseason for years -- and they rarely come true, but still interesting nonetheless. And there's always a "source" who has inside info on these sites.. Problem is -- even the best source is limited -- Shanahan himself may change his mind on these things every day. (heck, I change my own mind on the draft every time I read a new article). Anyway, like reading fiction - it's fun and it keeps your mind off the economy and watching Tiger Woods on TV..

1) Landry - might have killed his trade value after a sorry season. why did we draft him at #7 again?? Damn. Honestly it might be better to keep him because I do believe he's better than how badly he played last year -- and we'll get little in return for him.
2) Moss -- I'm all for trading him. He can never be a legitimate threat unless we have a solid #2 because they just double and triple team him -- and you can't throw to a 5 foot midget with 3 corners on him.
3) Campbell -- If we trade him, who's going to play QB? Brennan was injured and has played about 4-5 quarters in preseason total. Bradford or Clausen would get KILLED with our current offensive line. We'd have to pick up a veteran FA QB to help, but why not just keep JC..

Although improbable, I'd love to trade down. Maybe we could still get Clausen, pick up an extra O-lineman. And O-lineman. And O-lineman. Sigh.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Interesting offseason rumors. Love it. Sure, I've been reading these in the offseason for years -- and they rarely come true, but still interesting nonetheless. And there's always a "source" who has inside info on these sites.. Problem is -- even the best source is limited -- Shanahan himself may change his mind on these things every day. (heck, I change my own mind on the draft every time I read a new article). Anyway, like reading fiction - it's fun and it keeps your mind off the economy and watching Tiger Woods on TV..

1) Landry - might have killed his trade value after a sorry season. why did we draft him at #7 again?? Damn. Honestly it might be better to keep him because I do believe he's better than how badly he played last year -- and we'll get little in return for him.
2) Moss -- I'm all for trading him. He can never be a legitimate threat unless we have a solid #2 because they just double and triple team him -- and you can't throw to a 5 foot midget with 3 corners on him.
3) Campbell -- If we trade him, who's going to play QB? Brennan was injured and has played about 4-5 quarters in preseason total. Bradford or Clausen would get KILLED with our current offensive line. We'd have to pick up a veteran FA QB to help, but why not just keep JC..

Although improbable, I'd love to trade down. Maybe we could still get Clausen, pick up an extra O-lineman. And O-lineman. And O-lineman. Sigh.

Landry has been playing out of position. He needs to be able to play closer to the line and out of coverage. If we can get a FS and let him play SS then I think we would see why he was drafted so high. that was the plan when we drafted him with Sean playing FS.

I am all for trading Moss, however I dont see anyone really sending picks our way for him.

Campbell, I have been a long supporter of him. I think he is a good QB that has been playing behind a Jr varsity offensive line, and zero running game.
best case, we trade down get two starting oline man, a RB in the 3rd that makes a contribution.

heard today that Duante Robinson may be on our radar for FA pickup, which sends the message to Carlos "mr toast on double move" Rogers.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Interesting offseason rumors. Love it. Sure, I've been reading these in the offseason for years -- and they rarely come true, but still interesting nonetheless. And there's always a "source" who has inside info on these sites.. Problem is -- even the best source is limited -- Shanahan himself may change his mind on these things every day. (heck, I change my own mind on the draft every time I read a new article). Anyway, like reading fiction - it's fun and it keeps your mind off the economy and watching Tiger Woods on TV..

1) Landry - might have killed his trade value after a sorry season. why did we draft him at #7 again?? Damn. Honestly it might be better to keep him because I do believe he's better than how badly he played last year -- and we'll get little in return for him.
2) Moss -- I'm all for trading him. He can never be a legitimate threat unless we have a solid #2 because they just double and triple team him -- and you can't throw to a 5 foot midget with 3 corners on him.
3) Campbell -- If we trade him, who's going to play QB? Brennan was injured and has played about 4-5 quarters in preseason total. Bradford or Clausen would get KILLED with our current offensive line. We'd have to pick up a veteran FA QB to help, but why not just keep JC..

Although improbable, I'd love to trade down. Maybe we could still get Clausen, pick up an extra O-lineman. And O-lineman. And O-lineman. Sigh.

Hmm, where do I start.....

1) Landry-- We have 3 talented SS's right now. We need a FS or two. No way do we get the same type of trade value out of Doughty or Horton. So Landry makes sense. Don't know why we picked him up other then we needed a SS to play along side Taylor, then we lost Taylor and the team felt LL could work out at FS....which I would disagree with.

2) Moss-- I think we all have mentioned and almost agreed that Moss is more of a #2 WR vs. a #1. So talking about picking up a viable #2 would only leave us with two #2's. We need a Marshall, Bryant, or T.O. type of WR. Keep Moss if you want to play second fiddle but be prepared for his regular season injury. I'd trade Moss and see what I could get for ARE, if nothing then cut him. Bring in a big #1 type WR.

3) JC-- I'm in the tender JC catagory only cause I don't think there's another QB out there who would be as safe with the ball as JC. Collins need to go due to age. Let JC be the Vet back up, but JC won't like to hear that. I'd still go after a QB in the first round and Bradford or whoever is more accurate with the ball would be picked. I'm hedging our record will be better next year and we won't have a top 5 pick which means we can't wait till next year to find a Franchise QB.

Some will argue that none of the QB's this year are a lock or guarentee to be a Franchise QB..... well honestly no QB coming out of the draft is a lock. But the higher the quality pick usually gets you a higher quality QB as with all the other positions. I'd draft Bradford and start JC until Bradford was up to speed. But if we can get good trade value then trade away.

[The Goat]

Shanahan has always seemed to prefer larger WRs so trading Moss makes sense. Trading Laron makes sense almost any way you look at it. His attitude and behavior are ridiculous and there's no way Shanahan/Allen want that crap. Also, Laron's regressed every year in the league. Don't put the blame on coaching. Remember Laron wouldn't come to workouts early...wouldn't return phone calls.

Trading JC only makes sense if we plan on 1) bringing in a true vet like Pennington or Garcia and 2) drafting the QB of the future.

Maybe a best case scenario would be a package trade that brings us another 1st round pick or combo of 2nd rounders etc.

[SmootSmack]

Campbell to Buffalo talk is reportedly really heating up. A lot is contigent upon whether Campbell would agree to a long term deal with the Bills. Latest rumor I've heard is Campbell for a 3rd and a 5th. (Others insist Whitner is part of any deal though)

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Campbell to Buffalo talk is reportedly really heating up. A lot is contigent upon whether Campbell would agree to a long term deal with the Bills. Latest rumor I've heard is Campbell for a 3rd and a 5th. (Others insist Whitner is part of any deal though)

Does this mean I have to alter my dream draft?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Does this mean I have to alter my dream draft?

Um...I'm not sure what your dream draft is. Still, I'd wait before you alter any plans

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Campbell to Buffalo talk is reportedly really heating up. A lot is contigent upon whether Campbell would agree to a long term deal with the Bills. Latest rumor I've heard is Campbell for a 3rd and a 5th. (Others insist Whitner is part of any deal though)

A long term deal with the Bills eh

Poor guy

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Campbell to Buffalo talk is reportedly really heating up. A lot is contigent upon whether Campbell would agree to a long term deal with the Bills. Latest rumor I've heard is Campbell for a 3rd and a 5th. (Others insist Whitner is part of any deal though)

There are a lot of deals/discussions in Indy during the combine. Teams will be wheeling and dealing during the next week or so.

I find it hard to believe we'd trade Campbell without getting a QB in return. That would leave us with Todd Collins (who I doubt will be a Skin in the fall) and Colt Brennan. No bueno. If we do trade JC for just draft picks, we'd obviously be looking to draft Clausen or Bradford, but what if they both go in the top 3? Granted, that's unlikely, but still. And then where would we be?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

There are a lot of deals/discussions in Indy during the combine. Teams will be wheeling and dealing during the next week or so.

I find it hard to believe we'd trade Campbell without getting a QB in return. That would leave us with Todd Collins (who I doubt will be a Skin in the fall) and Colt Brennan. No bueno. If we do trade JC for just draft picks, we'd obviously be looking to draft Clausen or Bradford, but what if they both go in the top 3? Granted, that's unlikely, but still. And then where would we be?

I think they're pretty confident that either Clausen or Bradford would be there at 4. Plus, if the rumors are true, Pike and McCoy are guys they're interested in in the 2nd round. Personally, not a huge fan of either one and I don't totally buy either of those rumors.