Raiders release JaMarcus Russell

freddyg12 · 05-07-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've all seen guys (both players and coaches) find success with their 2nd (or even 3rd) team after failing early. But I can't ever remember a highly drafted QB coming back after failing early to have any sort of significant NFL career (McCown, Couch, Smith, Ware, etc)

Good point, especially the #1 overall. The only guy I can think of that fits the bill is Tommy Maddox, who was I believe eas a late 1st round pick by Denver, but years later had some success w/Pitt.

CRedskinsRule · 05-07-2010, 11:15 AM

Ultimately, he has to decide that he wants to play football again, and decide before it's undeniably too late. -some would argue it already is-. I compare him to our BMW, but OL is a far different animal then QB and it just seems impossible that he will decide to make the changes needed in time to turn his career around.

I can't see why ANY team would take him, but you figure one will try it, if he is willing to play for a major pay cut.

MTK · 05-07-2010, 11:26 AM

Ryan Leaf got a 2nd chance, so I have to imagine JR will get one at some point.

There definitely needs to be a rookie payscale. It's just insane the amount of money these unproven rooks get. And you have to wonder how much the $$ part of things plays into some of these guys busting. There's no carrot for them to chase, they're instant multi-millionaires without putting in an ounce of work at the NFL level.

Monkeydad · 05-07-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ryan Leaf got a 2nd chance, so I have to imagine JR will get one at some point.

There definitely needs to be a rookie payscale. It's just insane the amount of money these unproven rooks get. And you have to wonder how much the $$ part of things plays into some of these guys busting. There's no carrot for them to chase, they're instant multi-millionaires without putting in an ounce of work at the NFL level.

So did Heath Shuler. I agree, someone will pick him up.

BleedBurgundy · 05-07-2010, 12:13 PM

The thing is, given the feud between Shanahan and Al Davis, it would probably be a bit tempting on some level for MS to take Davis' former first round pick and turn him into a starting caliber QB.

Monkeydad · 05-07-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

The thing is, given the feud between Shanahan and Al Davis, it would probably be a bit tempting on some level for MS to take Davis' former first round pick and turn him into a starting caliber QB.

IF we never got McNabb and were looking at a Grossman/Brennan/Bartel depth chart...then maybe it would be a risk he'd take.

Not going to happen now though.

SolidSnake84 · 05-07-2010, 12:24 PM

It will never happen. JaMarcus doesnt appear to even have the ability. Failed QB's that enjoy a career re-surgance usually have good basic skills, coupled with a good team that can mask their deficiencies. The best example i can think of is Trent Green. He was mediocre at best, but finally found success with Kansas City's punishing running game, and at-that-time brilliant offensive playcalling...he had a good base set of skills to thrive on a great team.

MTK · 05-07-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It will never happen. JaMarcus doesnt appear to even have the ability. Failed QB's that enjoy a career re-surgance usually have good basic skills, coupled with a good team that can mask their deficiencies. The best example i can think of is Trent Green. He was mediocre at best, but finally found success with Kansas City's punishing running game, and at-that-time brilliant offensive playcalling...he had a good base set of skills to thrive on a great team.

The ability is there, the guy has a big time arm. The mental part and the committment to working is what isn't there.

BigHairedAristocrat · 05-07-2010, 12:59 PM

It doesnt seem like Russell really cares about playing professional football. I think he's happy having gotten paid an obscene amount of money. If ever decides he wants to play football again, the AFL might be his only option (does it even still exist?). I dont think he could make a CFL or UFL roster.

53Fan · 05-07-2010, 01:30 PM

There are guys who really care about football and want to be one of the best. They really get off on the game. There are guys who only want to be rich. I think Russell falls in the latter category.

CRedskinsRule · 05-07-2010, 01:38 PM

darrenrovell1

Bodog Jamarcus Russell's next team odds: Cardinals 3/1, Bills 7/2, Jaguars 4/1, Miami 6/1, Bengals 7/1, 49ers 15/2, Titans 8/1, CFL 10/1

djnemo65 · 05-07-2010, 01:55 PM

Shame because the guy has the physical tools to be one of the greatest ever. Can't make someone like football though.

skinsfan69 · 05-07-2010, 02:06 PM

This might be the best thing for Russell. He needs to be humbled. It just seems that he wasn't mature enough to handle the responsibility that comes w/ being a starting NFL QB. He needed another year in school. But it's hard to blame him when he was going to be a top 5 pick.

SouperMeister · 05-07-2010, 03:21 PM

Russell replaces Ryan Leaf as a the Gold Standard for draft busts.

12thMan · 05-07-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Russell replaces Ryan Leaf as a the Gold Standard for draft busts.

no doubt about it.

05-07-2010, 11:15 AM	#2
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,452	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell Ultimately, he has to decide that he wants to play football again, and decide before it's undeniably too late. -some would argue it already is-. I compare him to our BMW, but OL is a far different animal then QB and it just seems impossible that he will decide to make the changes needed in time to turn his career around. I can't see why ANY team would take him, but you figure one will try it, if he is willing to play for a major pay cut.

05-07-2010, 11:26 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell Ryan Leaf got a 2nd chance, so I have to imagine JR will get one at some point. There definitely needs to be a rookie payscale. It's just insane the amount of money these unproven rooks get. And you have to wonder how much the $$ part of things plays into some of these guys busting. There's no carrot for them to chase, they're instant multi-millionaires without putting in an ounce of work at the NFL level. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-07-2010, 12:13 PM	#5
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell The thing is, given the feud between Shanahan and Al Davis, it would probably be a bit tempting on some level for MS to take Davis' former first round pick and turn him into a starting caliber QB. __________________ "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine

05-07-2010, 12:24 PM	#7
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,953	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell It will never happen. JaMarcus doesnt appear to even have the ability. Failed QB's that enjoy a career re-surgance usually have good basic skills, coupled with a good team that can mask their deficiencies. The best example i can think of is Trent Green. He was mediocre at best, but finally found success with Kansas City's punishing running game, and at-that-time brilliant offensive playcalling...he had a good base set of skills to thrive on a great team. __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

05-07-2010, 12:59 PM	#9
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell It doesnt seem like Russell really cares about playing professional football. I think he's happy having gotten paid an obscene amount of money. If ever decides he wants to play football again, the AFL might be his only option (does it even still exist?). I dont think he could make a CFL or UFL roster. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

05-07-2010, 01:30 PM	#10
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell There are guys who really care about football and want to be one of the best. They really get off on the game. There are guys who only want to be rich. I think Russell falls in the latter category. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

05-07-2010, 01:38 PM	#11
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,452	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell darrenrovell1 Bodog Jamarcus Russell's next team odds: Cardinals 3/1, Bills 7/2, Jaguars 4/1, Miami 6/1, Bengals 7/1, 49ers 15/2, Titans 8/1, CFL 10/1

05-07-2010, 01:55 PM	#12
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell Shame because the guy has the physical tools to be one of the greatest ever. Can't make someone like football though.

05-07-2010, 02:06 PM	#13
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,325	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell This might be the best thing for Russell. He needs to be humbled. It just seems that he wasn't mature enough to handle the responsibility that comes w/ being a starting NFL QB. He needed another year in school. But it's hard to blame him when he was going to be a top 5 pick.

05-07-2010, 03:21 PM	#14
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Raiders release JaMarcus Russell Russell replaces Ryan Leaf as a the Gold Standard for draft busts.

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