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Old 09-07-2010, 10:32 PM   #1
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

Was going to mention that Matty.. you can't defend the bashing of this thread either.

We are last, we as fans really don't have any idea as to what this O is going to look like and how these players fit. On paper we look terrible at WR. We could get a few surprises with Armstrong and DT coming on strong to compliment SM then we have something to talk about. Galloway will be alright in this short stuff. Who knows... I just know the old guys do scare me, the guy who is out of the IFL is a big ?, small rookie man who has a fumbling problem, and MR Michigan State has had 1 good game in 2 years.

So there is reason for concern. BUT me being the optimist that I am will hope for some good play out of all those question marks up top!

If we are to rank them:

1. Dallas
2. Philly (very close behind Dallas)
3. Giants
4. Redskins
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:08 AM   #2
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

You gotta wonder why Thomas can't succeed. Guy is a physical freak, supremely athletic, and from Mich St!
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:20 AM   #3
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

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You gotta wonder why Thomas can't succeed. Guy is a physical freak, supremely athletic, and from Mich St!
Mich St isn't a good contributor to good NFL talent. Lorenzo White was the last Spartan that truly excelled in the NFL. It seems MSU QBs are relegated to being Lions backups, etc.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:23 AM   #4
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You gotta wonder why Thomas can't succeed. Guy is a physical freak, supremely athletic, and from Mich St!
At receiver being a physical freak is nice. However without route running, hands, and the ability to read coverage it's practically useless. The reason physical freaks go so early in the draft is because all the attributes listed that are essential to being a successful receiver in the NFL are considered teachable.
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At receiver being a physical freak is nice. However without route running, hands, and the ability to read coverage it's practically useless. The reason physical freaks go so early in the draft is because all the attributes listed that are essential to being a successful receiver in the NFL are considered teachable.
There you have it folks...Devin Thomas is unteachable. Who knew?! We should sue Mich St for giving him passing grades
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:32 AM   #6
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
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I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
Thats why you use one as a wideout and the other as a traditional Tight End.
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I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
The Bears and the Colts come to mind. Of course it depends what you consider significant impact. In my book there are only a handful of players in the NFL warrant the distinction of "Significant Impact."
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

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I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
Because its very rare to have 2 top tier TEs.
And i guess it depends on how you define sigificant impact.
Because if there are 2 TEs they don't put up equally big numbers.
Therefore the impact isn't apparent just glancing at stats.
The impact is felt in the favorable match-ups they create.

Billick 101: 2 TE Formation - Bing Videos

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Off the top of my head recent teams?

Packers- Lee/Finley
Bears- Olsen/Clark
Lions- Pettigrew/Heller/Fitzsimmons
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The Cooley-McNabb connection
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This season, the Washington Redskins may run a lot of plays out of formations where both Chris Cooley and Fred Davis are on the field, per Rick Maese of the Washington Post. This double-TE strategy is based primarily on two things: the talent level of Cooley and Davis, and the lack of options at wide receiver behind Santana Moss.

In addition, Cooley thinks that McNabb is the type of QB to trust his arm to get the ball into tight spots than his predecessor Jason Campbell. "I expect to get more balls thrown to me with Donovan and more opportunity in coverage when I don't expect passes than with Jason," Cooley said.

Another benefit of using two TEs is making use of them as extra blockers in the running game. Although the Redskins made improving the offensive line a major priority this offseason -- drafting Trent Williams, trading for Jammal Brown and signing Artis Hicks -- it's still a work in progress. Having an extra body out there to control the edge will be vital.

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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

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The Cooley-McNabb connection
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This season, the Washington Redskins may run a lot of plays out of formations where both Chris Cooley and Fred Davis are on the field, per Rick Maese of the Washington Post. This double-TE strategy is based primarily on two things: the talent level of Cooley and Davis, and the lack of options at wide receiver behind Santana Moss.

In addition, Cooley thinks that McNabb is the type of QB to trust his arm to get the ball into tight spots than his predecessor Jason Campbell. "I expect to get more balls thrown to me with Donovan and more opportunity in coverage when I don't expect passes than with Jason," Cooley said.

Another benefit of using two TEs is making use of them as extra blockers in the running game. Although the Redskins made improving the offensive line a major priority this offseason -- drafting Trent Williams, trading for Jammal Brown and signing Artis Hicks -- it's still a work in progress. Having an extra body out there to control the edge will be vital.

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Old 09-08-2010, 06:34 PM   #12
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Because its very rare to have 2 top tier TEs.
And i guess it depends on how you define sigificant impact.
Because if there are 2 TEs they don't put up equally big numbers.
Therefore the impact isn't apparent just glancing at stats.
The impact is felt in the favorable match-ups they create.

Billick 101: 2 TE Formation - Bing Videos

NFL Videos: Week 14 Playbook: Brian Billick on tight ends

Off the top of my head recent teams?

Packers- Lee/Finley
Bears- Olsen/Clark
Lions- Pettigrew/Heller/Fitzsimmons
The Pats may have that Gronkowski kid and the other TE to send out against defenses along with Welker and Moss.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:59 AM   #13
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

Well,at least Santana Moss feels the same way...
Santana Moss: "This receving corps is an upgrade from anything I've had here" - EXTREMESKINS.com
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This time last year Cooley was singing JZ's praises (and I was buying it ) When it comes to player speak, just show it on the field. The rest is just PR bs
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This time last year Cooley was singing JZ's praises (and I was buying it ) When it comes to player speak, just show it on the field. The rest is just PR bs

Exactly, the PR MS honeymoon is over now. Now it is show me the money time.
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