Tupac or Biggie

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Not going to have kids but by that logic watching Denzel Washington in Training Day will make all our kids grow up to be corrupt cops.

If I become a corrupt cop can I get Eva Mendes to be my bitch? Sweet!

[MTK]

We're talking about their music, not their personal lives.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We're talking about their music, not their personal lives.

Can we really separate them? Their lyrics included the same glorification of drugs, sex, murder and violence as their lifestyles.

Tupac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah Lyrics

Tupac - Enemies With Me Lyrics



Notorious B.i.g. - Dead Wrong Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Gimme The Loot Lyrics

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

Can we really separate them? Their lyrics included the same glorification of drugs, sex, murder and violence as their lifestyles.

Tupac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah Lyrics

Tupac - Enemies With Me Lyrics



Notorious B.i.g. - Dead Wrong Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Gimme The Loot Lyrics

Their songs also reflected their backgrounds and upbringing. Reality often isn't a pleasant thing to look at or hear about.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Buster

Can we really separate them? Their lyrics included the same glorification of drugs, sex, murder and violence as their lifestyles.

Tupac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah Lyrics

Tupac - Enemies With Me Lyrics



Notorious B.i.g. - Dead Wrong Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Gimme The Loot Lyrics

Agreed, you can't really separate music and there lives. Jim Morrison was a great musician but also a drunk and it cost him his life. These guys are ultra talented but we should glorify them realizing the affect they have on their fans. Yes, kid's are influenced by these guys, just as fans were influenced by Jim Morrison just for example.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Buster

Can we really separate them? Their lyrics included the same glorification of drugs, sex, murder and violence as their lifestyles.

Tupac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah Lyrics

Tupac - Enemies With Me Lyrics



Notorious B.i.g. - Dead Wrong Lyrics

Notorious B.i.g. - Gimme The Loot Lyrics

A lot of movies and video games do the same. You guys sound like Joe Lieberman. Although their lyrics may not depict wholesome family fun in my mind anything they may say is still safer then censorship.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

We're talking about their music, not their personal lives.

Would you want guys like that on the Redskins?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Would you want guys like that on the Redskins?

I think the football equivalents would be Pacman Jones and Lawrence Phillips.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Would you want guys like that on the Redskins?

Irrelevant.

I can appreciate the art even though I may not agree with the lifestyle of the artist. Again we're talking about two separate things.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Irrelevant.

I can appreciate the art even though I may not agree with the lifestyle of the artist. Again we're talking about two separate things.

I understand that you can listen to their music and not be influenced but there are kids with no guidance in life or little guidance that cannot. Why not use their wrap to draw kids away from that life style instead of into that life style. I mean how many videos can one watch with a nice car, hot chick, and a fist full of money.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I understand that you can listen to their music and not be influenced but there are kids with no guidance in life or little guidance that cannot. Why not use their wrap to draw kids away from that life style instead of into that life style. I mean how many videos can one watch with a nice car, hot chick, and a fist full of money.

That's an issue much bigger than music, and not something a song or video is going to fix.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I understand that you can listen to their music and not be influenced but there are kids with no guidance in life or little guidance that cannot. Why not use their wrap to draw kids away from that life style instead of into that life style. I mean how many videos can one watch with a nice car, hot chick, and a fist full of money.

Maybe you should have listened to more hip-hop so you would know how to spell and understand homonyms. Wrap? Seriously?

Anyhow, completely disagree with your generic post about their music.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I understand that you can listen to their music and not be influenced but there are kids with no guidance in life or little guidance that cannot. Why not use their wrap to draw kids away from that life style instead of into that life style. I mean how many videos can one watch with a nice car, hot chick, and a fist full of money.

[hooskins]

What would say about songs like Changes(Tupac)? Just ignore those, huh?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What would say about songs like Changes(Tupac)? Just ignore those, huh?

I'm guessing that is not a bad song so I guess 1 out of 20 makes his music OK. I know most kids know better but you cannot tell me the inner city kids with no guidance are not influenced by these guys. Even some kids with guidance are influenced by them. I just don't understand gloifing what they do and are about.