2011 Senior Bowl Week

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

Good Post!!
Would you please shoot a copy over to Redskins Park just to make sure Bruce and MS are on board with the plan?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

A-freaking-men...well said

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If you can't land the franchise QB, you keep building the OL / DL and work to acquire the franchise QB. The last thing you do is waste a top ten pick reaching on a QB. That reach on the QB sets the franchise back at least 3-4 years. Better to take a QB in the lower rounds (less investment) and see if one can develop into a solid starter.

If you have all the other pieces in place a reach (Sanchez) won't hurt the team as much and that QB will look a lot better behind a very good OL with a very good D on the other side of the ball.

This is a great point. And I know a lot of people will not agree with my opinion but I would just get rid of just about every guy on this team approaching 30, tank next year and get in position to draft Andrew Luck in 2012. Of course he's not a sure thing but he seems to be more of a sure thing than any of the guys coming out this year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This is a great point. And I know a lot of people will not agree with my opinion but I would just get rid of just about every guy on this team approaching 30, tank next year and get in position to draft Andrew Luck in 2012. Of course he's not a sure thing but he seems to be more of a sure thing than any of the guys coming out this year.

**** That! I'm tired of losing every season, Luck has had 1 great season.. Don't make this guy out to be Manning.. He could be Tim Couch who knows but it's not worth TANKING a season

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.

Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.

In all fairness they are saying the same about Tebow, and he looked pretty damn good in 2 starts this yr

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

In all fairness they are saying the same about Tebow, and he looked pretty damn good in 2 starts this yr

C'mon. I could probably go out and get 150 yards on Houston's defense. If Tebow plays a full 16 game schedule his weaknesses are going to show up. 2 starts don't prove a thing. I want to see him over a 16 game schedule.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Everything I'd heard about Locker is...great athlete, will probably blow up at the combine, but simply not a skilled enough pure passer to cut it in the NFL. If he can't consistently shread Pac Ten defenses then I'm not sold that he can be good enough to be a passer in the NFL. Therefore I see no reason to take this guy in the first two rounds.

Let's also realize that this team isn't going to be competing for a Super Bowl for several more years, regardless who's playing QB.

To throw in the towel on Locker is a bit premature. True he hasn't looked very good in college especially considering one could easily say he regressed this past season. That being said, he has all the physical talent to play the position and shows the ability to play at a high level, but seems as though he needs more coaching and time to develop. If he were available when we pick in the second round, then I'd be fine with drafting him. It would be a good value pick considering how high people were on him last season.

As for shredding PAC10 defenses, look at the talent level that surrounded him. Not very good so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that his play would suffer. It reminds me a bit of Archie Manning. He was a damn good qb, he just played for some terrible teams. Can't blame all of the success or failure on one man.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Terpfan76

To throw in the towel on Locker is a bit premature. True he hasn't looked very good in college especially considering one could easily say he regressed this past season. That being said, he has all the physical talent to play the position and shows the ability to play at a high level, but seems as though he needs more coaching and time to develop. If he were available when we pick in the second round, then I'd be fine with drafting him. It would be a good value pick considering how high people were on him last season.

As for shredding PAC10 defenses, look at the talent level that surrounded him. Not very good so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that his play would suffer. It reminds me a bit of Archie Manning. He was a damn good qb, he just played for some terrible teams. Can't blame all of the success or failure on one man.

I'm not saying throw in the towel, I'd just pass on him if I were the Redskins cause there are so many other needs.

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I guess you think that Grosman will ride us to the Superbowl. Or Maybe Beck? Until we get a QB, we will be medicore at best. The only sure way to get a QB is to keep drafting high till you get one. You dont have a chance untill you have one, so why worry about other pieces untill you have one in place.

None of the guys in this years draft have "Franchise QB" written all over them. True, there are a couple guys that are probably first rounders, but none really stand out. Where it gets interesting is in the 2nd round and later where you'll run into guys like Devlin, Ponder, Daulton, and Stanzi etc...
To be honest, the more I see and hear about Devlin, the more I'm interested. I think I'd be much happier with him in rounds two or three vs Daulton or Ponder in either of those spots.

[redsk1]

You have so many kids coming out of school early, I believe 2nd rounders are almost like 1st rounders this year. I'd love to pick up another 2nd via trade or trading down. Of course, easy for us to say this over and over. If we do pick up one or two additional picks, Hankerson might be a steal in the 2nd. I know WR is not the highest priority. Of course I'd rather pick up at least 1 OL and 1 DL prior to going elsewhere. Anyways..

Colin Kaepernick, Leonard Hankerson, Jake Locker updates from Senior Bowl practice - NFL - SI.com


Leonard Hankerson/WR/Miami: Hankerson proved to be a handful for whomever attempted to cover him. He continually created separation and beat multiple cornerbacks deep to make the downfield catch. Hankerson did not drop a pass all day and made several difficult receptions in practice.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by redsk1

You have so many kids coming out of school early, I believe 2nd rounders are almost like 1st rounders this year. I'd love to pick up another 2nd via trade or trading down. Of course, easy for us to say this over and over. If we do pick up one or two additional picks, Hankerson might be a steal in the 2nd. I know WR is not the highest priority. Of course I'd rather pick up at least 1 OL and 1 DL prior to going elsewhere. Anyways..

Colin Kaepernick, Leonard Hankerson, Jake Locker updates from Senior Bowl practice - NFL - SI.com


Leonard Hankerson/WR/Miami: Hankerson proved to be a handful for whomever attempted to cover him. He continually created separation and beat multiple cornerbacks deep to make the downfield catch. Hankerson did not drop a pass all day and made several difficult receptions in practice.

If he is so heralded at the senior bowl so far, why is he not already considered a 1st round value? I am always wary of people who put too much stock into one event like the senior bowl, shriners game, or even the combine. You can prepare for a test like at the combine, but mastering that doesn't always make you the best at your position on the field.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

If he is so heralded at the senior bowl so far, why is he not already considered a 1st round value? I am always wary of people who put too much stock into one event like the senior bowl, shriners game, or even the combine. You can prepare for a test like at the combine, but mastering that doesn't always make you the best at your position on the field.

I believe he was projected as a 2nd rounder. Of course, projections are just that. You can't put too much emphasis on one day, one event, etc. The guy is a big time talent though even prior to today. Big guy, who's really talented. I don't know sh** though. I've seen him play a few times and he's performing well in SB practices. Maybe worth a look..

[Terpfan76]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

If he is so heralded at the senior bowl so far, why is he not already considered a 1st round value? I am always wary of people who put too much stock into one event like the senior bowl, shriners game, or even the combine. You can prepare for a test like at the combine, but mastering that doesn't always make you the best at your position on the field.

The War Room at The Sporting News has Hankerson as a first rounder.

"Bottom line: Hankerson is a two-year starter at receiver for the Hurricanes. He does not have any ability or production as a return man for special teams. He is a first-year starter as a pro, provided that he can improve his route-running consistency."
SportingNews.com - Pro Football War Room

They have him rated as the 13th overall player in their top 99.

I also think he could be another Andre Johnson type receiver with his combination of size, strength and speed. He's not as fast as Johnson or as polished, but I really think he could be an elite wideout early in his career.
I'm not an insider with espn.com so if anyone has their scouting report, that would be nice.