Redskins Draft Analysis Thread

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

WTF? I thought the Lions stole the draft taking positions of need that would start immediatley. The Vikes did well, as did the Eagles I felt.

The Lions got perhaps the steal of the 1st round with Fairley at 13.

But as far as drafting players who will start immediately, you could argue the same with the Skins. Kerrigan, Hankerson, and quite possibly Helu and Jenkins are all potential starters. Neild could push Bryant at NT, too.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

The Lions got perhaps the steal of the 1st round with Fairley at 13.

But as far as drafting players who will start immediately, you could argue the same with the Skins. Kerrigan, Hankerson, and quite possibly Helu and Jenkins are all potential starters. Neild could push Bryant at NT, too.

Don't get me wrong I think we did very well also taking players we needed. We needed a NT they got one and quite possibly a really good one. He was a NT in college and knows his job is to take up space and help stop the run.

Kerrigan will definitley be an upgrade and will help take some of the heat off of Rak.

Jenkins will most likely command double teams if Neild does not at NT so both Rak and Kerrigan should be freed up to crush the QB.

We had a definit need for a big body WR. Now we have AA, Hankerson, and Paul.

I might have foregone one RB and taken a Center to relieve Rahback or a RT since were not sure if the person expected to play that position can stay healthy. Atleast fix the foundation LT, C, RT then work on the gaps. We filled the LT last yr so it would have been nice to see either C, or RT fixed and the other fixed in FA.

But the Lions are going to have a Killer defense now but I would also say I think they started their "rebuild" a year or two prior to us so their needs were fewer. We had needs all across the board.

[NYCskinfan82]

I like our picks we drafted for need and I think we didn't leap for anyone we had six picks got as many as 13 and ended up with 12 good character guys some a little raw put they show alot of potential. B is my grade. I'm happy we didn't draft a QB don't give into media or the fans do what's in the best interest of the TEAM. HTTR.

[Terpfan76]

Seemed like there was a plan in the Skins warroom this year and they stuck to it. I really don't believe they had any reaches in the truest term. I'd have like for the team to have gotten Rodney Hudson, but I'm not overly upset about that.

I really like Roy Helu to potentially be our next Portis type back although not nearly as good of a blocker, but Royster is, and should get a look as a 3rd down back.

Paul has good size/speed 4.46/6' 223lbs and is an elusive runner and an excellent punt returner. Should be a potentially solid possession receiver. Has no fear of going over the middle.

Aldrick Robinson is small, 5'9" 183lbs, but has excellent speed (4.36) and quickness. Not a great route runner but will be a heckuva vertical threat with soft hands.

Maurice Hurt could possibly be the steal of our draft. He can play either guard position and has played tackle as well. At 6'3" 320lbs, he's a little smaller than desired, but not terribly so. He may end up a year 1 starter although that would be less than ideal.

Neild is a high effort guy with good size/strength. He'll do pretty well at NT but not so much so as to be readily noticeable. He'll be a solid player that gets the job done if all goes well, otherwise, probably a decent player in a the rotation. FWIW, I really hate saying anything remotely nice about WVU players. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire lol... Go Terps!!

Sporting News gave us a C+ but I think that has a lot to do with the fact we didn't get a qb. I'm glad we didn't, none really acquitted themselves of being elite franchise qb's and while it might be nice to have a young kid on the roster to groom as a potential back up, we can do the same looking at UDFAs. All in all, I say we get a B but possibly better if some of the late round picks work out.

[SBXVII]

I like the picks, but what I don't like is exactly what some have already said. To me it looks like the scouting staff may have been doing their jobs all the way until that went to Nebraska to visit one player and then got suckered into looking at 2 others. Similar to what happened back when the team explored Carlos Rogers. All of a sudden they are looking at a QB (JC) and reaching for him.

I'm not saying that are not good but there were other players on the board that were far more talented at their respected positions but for some reason the scouting seemed to have gotten lazy after visiting Nebraska and threw together a bunch of picks just to fill in gaps. As stated I would have preferred more OL in the later rounds in the hopes of replacing a few underachievers from last year.

[diehard]

I just don't see Neild as a NT, at least a good one. He's a Golston clone which isn't all bad.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by diehard

I just don't see Neild as a NT, at least a good one. He's a Golston clone which isn't all bad.

Everyone says he's a work horse, down and dirty scrumber. Which is what a NT needs to be. The concern brought up is that he's only 300lbs and most NT's are 330+. But I think I heard the announcers commenting after the draft that Pittsburg and a few other teams use smaller NT's and they are used effectively.

Remember our defense is molded after Pittsburg's 3-4 defense. So although I too would like to have seen the team pick up a big NT, I'll reserve judgement until I see how the defense does with the new players added to the team. I think it will be interesting to see how Haslett uses his new toys.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Everyone says he's a work horse, down and dirty scrumber. Which is what a NT needs to be. The concern brought up is that he's only 300lbs and most NT's are 330+. But I think I heard the announcers commenting after the draft that Pittsburg and a few other teams use smaller NT's and they are used effectively.

Remember our defense is molded after Pittsburg's 3-4 defense. So although I too would like to have seen the team pick up a big NT, I'll reserve judgement until I see how the defense does with the new players added to the team. I think it will be interesting to see how Haslett uses his new toys.

He weighed in at 319 during the combine. The reason he might not "look" like a classic Nose tackle body comp wise is due to the fact that he's much more muscular then...well most interior D-Line prospects in general. So at worst his potential to add 10 pounds of good weight might be limited. I don't think he'll be a pro bowler, but I do feel he'll be a starter in this league.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

He weighed in at 319 during the combine. The reason he might not "look" like a classic Nose tackle body comp wise is due to the fact that he's much more muscular then...well most interior D-Line prospects in general. So at worst his potential to add 10 pounds of good weight might be limited. I don't think he'll be a pro bowler, but I do feel he'll be a starter in this league.

Not only that, but muscle is also more dense than fat. So, if a slab of muscle and a slab of fat of the exact same size as the muscle slab are weighed, the slab of muscle would have a heavier weight. Dude must be RIPPED.

[Swarley]

I think we had a great draft. I'd give us a solid A. Like Smoot I'm really not concerned about our lack of OLinemen taken. We have young players that by all accounts should be improved. I doubt anyone stuck out at them in this draft. I would have liked to see a QB but I think we can still address that (if the league lets us that is). I think we did well drafting players that can help immediately or at least by next season.

btw Nbcsports game us an A- only because we didn't take a QB

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[SBXVII]

I really hope two things.... when the players were able to show up to the facility on Fri. the coaching staff was smart enough to hand Fletcher a few "Playbooks" to hand to the Rookies for them to start studying. Probably didn't happen but it would be nice.

I also hope the team takes a moment and really looks at the UDFA's and decides who should be contacted immediatly when the players are allowed back at the facility. I hope OL is looked at, CB/S, K/P, FB, and maybe other WR's.

[BuckSkin]

Jamie Dukes of NFLN says that we are now in play for Luck in next year's draft. I'm beginning to dislike that guy.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BuckSkin

Jamie Dukes of NFLN says that we are now in play for Luck in next year's draft. I'm beginning to dislike that guy.

Really? and the 49ers are not? I honestly think he chose not to come out this yr because he knew he would not be picked up by his ole ball coach. So he chose to stay in college another yr vs. getting stuck with a screwed up team, ie; Panthers, or Bills.

I'm betting the 49ers throw a ton at whoever is 1st in the draft in order to get him next yr. So I'd pretty much look at the rest of the QB's coming out and pick one of them. Not to mention Luck might not have a good yr considering the school will have a new HC and probably a new scheme.

[BuckSkin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Really? and the 49ers are not? I honestly think he chose not to come out this yr because he knew he would not be picked up by his ole ball coach. So he chose to stay in college another yr vs. getting stuck with a screwed up team, ie; Panthers, or Bills.

I'm betting the 49ers throw a ton at whoever is 1st in the draft in order to get him next yr. So I'd pretty much look at the rest of the QB's coming out and pick one of them. Not to mention Luck might not have a good yr considering the school will have a new HC and probably a new scheme.

What I meant was Dukes is convinced the Skins will earn the first overall pick in the 2012 draft due to our recent draft.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BuckSkin

What I meant was Dukes is convinced the Skins will earn the first overall pick in the 2012 draft due to our recent draft.

LOL I just posted the same thing in another thread..

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Funny how NFLN said they think the redskins will finish with the worst record