Report claims Redskins won't cut Haynesworth

[JoeRedskin]

Just for the record - I am in 100% agreement with Schneed on this. Every day, Coach Mike should walk by AH and blatantly ignore the guy.

I got no problem having him sit on the bench/be inactive all season. One less roster spot? Fine - Practice him hard for a week, let him bitch & complain about shortness of breath or some other lame minor injury and then IR him for the season. He's out of the clubhouse, we get our roster spot and his big payday shrinks further & further.

The more I think of it, the more I like this idea - I wouldn't be surprised if Shanallen are just standing by the "IR button" hoping AH complains of an injury:
AH: (To Shanahan while walking off the practice field) I think I stubbed my toe and can't practice.
MS: If you are injured, hit the showers - otherwise get your ass back out there.
[Shockingly, AH hits the showers]
BA: (On AH's cellphone as AH is leaving the showers) Hey, Albert just heard about your toe injury. As a precautionary measure, we've placed you on IR. I'm sure you'll want to work out with your own trainer, so see you next year.

[MTK]

Yeah I hear you but Vick was a different type of gamble.

I just don't see AH playing at an all-pro level on a consistent basis for anyone. Not only would he have to get his ass in gear and start ballin', but he would have to lose the shitty attitude. Not happening. He got paid, he's happy, and now he's just content on playing out the string.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah I hear you but Vick was a different type of gamble.

I just don't see AH playing at an all-pro level on a consistent basis for anyone. Not only would he have to get his ass in gear and start ballin', but he would have to lose the shitty attitude. Not happening. He got paid, he's happy, and now he's just content on playing out the string.

This is the $64,000 question and, to answer it, we are all just guessing as to what is going in AH's head. You (and others) think he's checked out and content to play out the string so keeping him around does nothing. I (and others) think he still gives a sh** about something (money, legacy, notoriety ... something he needs to be playing football to get) and so taking football away from him will get him to play well for us (for a year) and then we can get a decent trade for him.

I agree he has "no heart or passion for the game" but I think he does have passion about something and needs football to get it (whatever "it" is). Not being gifted with ESP, it is entirely possible that you may be right as to his future motivational potential.

[Alvin Walton]

He is also facing possible suspensions for his off season shenanigans. He may not even be able to play a full season.
He needs to be off loaded to the first dumbass to offer us a trade.

[Meks]

Don't trade him in division, don't allow him to sign with any team he wants by cutting him. Take w.ever we.can get for him. Out of conference would be a plus.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Meks

Don't trade him in division, don't allow him to sign with any team he wants by cutting him. Take w.ever we.can get for him. Out of conference would be a plus.

Albert Haynesworth will be hard to trade? - NFL- NBC Sports

[SBXVII]

NFL.com news: Report: Redskins not interested in releasing Haynesworth

If the Redskins part ways with Haynesworth, they are determined to do so through a trade, according to the newspaper. Shanahan is not interested in cutting a player who's earned roughly $32 million from the Redskins over the past two seasons, only to see him sign with another team.

Attitude or not I totally feel the same way. No way do we pay him $32 mill and let him walk to sign where ever he wants so he has his cake and eat it too. I'd rather he take up that roster spot sitting on the bench all season and occasionally watching fans taunting him just for fun. I want something for my $32 mill.

The NFL lockout has slowed the Redskins from solving the curious case of Albert Haynesworth, but The Washington Post reported Thursday that coach Mike Shanahan isn't about to accept anything less than a second-round pick for the pricey defensive lineman.

If the Eagles want to give up that I'd trade him to them. We know how to beat him. Stay away from him for 6 plays, sustain the drive, and AH will take himself out of the game which then we can run all throught the defense. When he comes back in start all over again.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

NFL.com news: Report: Redskins not interested in releasing Haynesworth



Attitude or not I totally feel the same way. No way do we pay him $32 mill and let him walk to sign where ever he wants so he has his cake and eat it too. I'd rather he take up that roster spot sitting on the bench all season and occasionally watching fans taunting him just for fun. I want something for my $32 mill.



If the Eagles want to give up that I'd trade him to them. We know how to beat him. Stay away from him for 6 plays, sustain the drive, and AH will take himself out of the game which then we can run all throught the defense. When he comes back in start all over again.

Imagine that. An unemotional response, common sense and a level head exercised by the boss.

[SBXVII]

On a side note not to get off track..... since this thread was closed....
http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...lockeroom.html

Perhaps someone can call Slow Willie about another one of his teamates making the news because they are soooo focused.

Agent: NFL star Hines Ward not impaired behind wheel - CNN.com

[#56fanatic]

I wouldn't cut him for sure. That is what he wants to happen, so he can get some more money to feed his fat lazy ass. I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Eagles, unless it is something absolutely ridiculous that we can't refuse. I would let him sit on the bench, or man up and play like the whole NFL knows he can. We have a couple of DT that can play, I'd put him exclusively on the end and let him play. RE or LE, I think he can be a very dominant guy.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I wouldn't cut him for sure. That is what he wants to happen, so he can get some more money to feed his fat lazy ass. I definitely wouldn't trade him to the Eagles, unless it is something absolutely ridiculous that we can't refuse. I would let him sit on the bench, or man up and play like the whole NFL knows he can. We have a couple of DT that can play, I'd put him exclusively on the end and let him play. RE or LE, I think he can be a very dominant guy.

We should trade him to Eagles for a 1st and conditional 4th that can become a 3rd. LOL. I would love for Shanny to tell the Walrus that just to get a rise out of him.

[SBXVII]

For those of you who simply want to cut him, how about you pay me $3,000 to mow your yard, I'll show up when I want, take a couple swipes with the push mower, take a break and lay on the ground for 5 mins., then leave because I'm not interested in pushing a mower through your whole yard. AND I decide to keep your money and look to mow someone else's who has a riding mower.

In a basic sense that's what has happened. Don't tell me you wouldn't try to come after me for the money or try to force me to do what I was paid to do. That's exactly how Snyder must feel. He wants SOMETHING in return. It's idiotic to simply think DS is rich and can handle it so let's just cut the fat fart and be done with him.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

For those of you who simply want to cut him, how about you pay me $3,000 to mow your yard, I'll show up when I want, take a couple swipes with the push mower, take a break and lay on the ground for 5 mins., then leave because I'm not interested in pushing a mower through your whole yard. AND I decide to keep your money and look to mow someone else's who has a riding mower.

In a basic sense that's what has happened. Don't tell me you wouldn't try to come after me for the money or try to force me to do what I was paid to do. That's exactly how Snyder must feel. He wants SOMETHING in return. It's idiotic to simply think DS is rich and can handle it so let's just cut the fat fart and be done with him.

Well if someone told me that you would be a problem if I hired you, I wouldn't have hired you in the first place. If I did hire you, knowing that information, well I deserve to lose the money. Except that this scenario doesn't compare to football, like many other scenarios people try to compare to football.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well if someone told me that you would be a problem if I hired you, I wouldn't have hired you in the first place. If I did hire you, knowing that information, well I deserve to lose the money. Except that this scenario doesn't compare to football, like many other scenarios people try to compare to football.

That's not factually correct. From a legal perspective, Albert Haynesworth signed a contract with the Washington Redskins. Not with the "Jim Zorns Who Run a 4-3".

He's legally obligated to do what the coaches tell him.

I think it's fair to say the 'Skins were warned that his character isn't great and thus should have been aware that he could be a locker room problem, but there are locker room problems and then there's this. It's not fair to say they should have known that he would flat out ignore his contractual obligations to play whatever the coaches tell him to play.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That's not factually correct. From a legal perspective, Albert Haynesworth signed a contract with the Washington Redskins. Not with the "Jim Zorns Who Run a 4-3".

He's legally obligated to do what the coaches tell him.

I think it's fair to say the 'Skins were warned that his character isn't great and thus should have been aware that he could be a locker room problem, but there are locker room problems and then there's this. It's not fair to say they should have known that he would flat out ignore his contractual obligations to play whatever the coaches tell him to play.

First, I did say that this scenario is not a good comparison. Second, if you are going to invest $40 mil. to possibly $100 mil. on a player, you better be damn sure things are going to work out, but the team didn't.

In an ideal world, I would want Haynesworth to stay here, learn his lesson, and work things out. But, the team also thought he'd work out coming out of Tenn., and he didn't. I think he's a terrible person and nothing is going to motivate him.

This team also has a history of investing a lot on FAs, not doing their homework on whether they will work out, and then having them fail miserably. And the latest example was McNabb, costing us two draft picks, yet no one is clamoring for him to stay on the roster and work things out. It would actually benefit the team more for McNabb to stay and work things out, yet just about everyone wants him gone from the team (completely and utterly wasting the draft picks).

In the end, nothing good will come out Haynesworth staying with the team. And there are a lot of positives that will come out if he leaves the team. If you think otherwise you are either a.) way too optimistic thinking that Haynesworth will learn his lesson and work things out b.) care more about this guy "learning his lesson" than anything else c.) you are Dan Snyder.

As I repeatedly say, Vinny's f*ck ups won't be cheap to fix.