Laron Landry = Lavar?

[JoeRedskin]

Having not studied their form, I will concede - for arguments sake - that Reed is the better tackler. A poor tackler with poor coverage skills but with speed can at least get to receiver to have a shot at recovering from his mistake. A good tackler with poor coverage skills who is also slow has no chance to recover from his mistakes. Make no mistake about it. It's not just that LL is faster, it's that RD is just plain slow.

At this level, speed makes a huge difference and covers for lots of other defiencies. LL has it, RD doesn't.

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Having not studied their form, I will concede - for arguments sake - that Reed is the better tackler. A poor tackler with poor coverage skills but with speed can at least get to receiver to have a shot at recovering from his mistake. A good tackler with poor coverage skills who is also slow has no chance to recover from his mistakes. Make no mistake about it. It's not just that LL is faster, it's that RD is just plain slow.

At this level, speed makes a huge difference and covers for lots of other defiencies. LL has it, RD doesn't.

While there is still value he should be traded for OL or QB before everyone knows he is inconsistent at best. It would be nice if he would play to his potential but I don't see it happening if it hasn't happened yet. But maybe he can. Maybe. It would be nice if he learned to tackle and make some plays. My opinion. It would be nice to be wrong because he can change a game with his talent. It just ain't happening.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Dirty 30 is a guy that I wish I could like more. I know he is coming off an injury & he was playing lights out last year beforehand. But the 2nd half TD incident w/London in his face sunday really made me think about his overall approach to the game. Something's been wrong w/this defense the last couple weeks, I wonder if he's part of the problem.

He is great at making big hits, but if you watch him take on blockers he usually takes himself out of the play. His coverage issues have been talked about by us quite a bit.

Is Laron our present day Lavar? A big hitter but undisciplined? Is he a Shanahan guy? I'm actually wondering if the staff feels he's worth investing in beyond his current deal.

Studs and Duds (defense): Redskins-Bills
By John Keim: Wash. Exam. (Duds)

SS LaRon Landry. He completely blew a coverage on the Bills’ last touchdown pass, a 15-yarder to Scott Chandler in the third quarter. Landry likes to take chances and veer off the script sometimes, but in this case it’s hard to tell why he reacted the way he did. Landry crept up near the line as if he was going to blitz or that he anticipated a run. Chandler ran right past Landry without drawing a glance. By the time Landry realized what was going on it was way too late. London Fletcher had a harsh reaction after the play; just a guess but Fletcher doesn’t go that crazy unless this has been an issue with this defense. Also, didn’t like that Landry wagged his finger at Steve Johnson after one play in which the Bills gained a first down but Landry ended up knocking the receiver to the ground (Johnson was also hit low by those involved in the play). The Bills were leading and had just gained a first down; no wagging. Love the passion he brings, but the timing has to be right.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Studs and Duds (defense): Redskins-Bills
By John Keim: Wash. Exam. (Duds)

SS LaRon Landry. He completely blew a coverage on the Bills’ last touchdown pass, a 15-yarder to Scott Chandler in the third quarter. Landry likes to take chances and veer off the script sometimes, but in this case it’s hard to tell why he reacted the way he did. Landry crept up near the line as if he was going to blitz or that he anticipated a run. Chandler ran right past Landry without drawing a glance. By the time Landry realized what was going on it was way too late. London Fletcher had a harsh reaction after the play; just a guess but Fletcher doesn’t go that crazy unless this has been an issue with this defense. Also, didn’t like that Landry wagged his finger at Steve Johnson after one play in which the Bills gained a first down but Landry ended up knocking the receiver to the ground (Johnson was also hit low by those involved in the play). The Bills were leading and had just gained a first down; no wagging. Love the passion he brings, but the timing has to be right.

Thanks for posting this. One of same thoughts I had earlier in this thread.

[Chico23231]

When LL leaves via free agency, its gonna be the same situation as Carlos. We are gonna be kicking ourselves we didnt treat this guy better and will he probably end up in the probowl, just like Carlos is this year.

Laron is a borderline probowl type. My biggest problem is the recent injury issues. Dont want to give him a contract if he cant play at least 14-16 games a year.

To say Reed even close to the talent of LL is an epic fail. Not a comparison, believe me if we cut Reed tomorrow nobody picks his worthless ass up. No one

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

When LL leaves via free agency, its gonna be the same situation as Carlos. We are gonna be kicking ourselves we didnt treat this guy better and will he probably end up in the probowl, just like Carlos is this year.

Laron is a borderline probowl type. My biggest problem is the recent injury issues. Dont want to give him a contract if he cant play at least 14-16 games a year.

To say Reed even close to the talent of LL is an epic fail. Not a comparison, believe me if we cut Reed tomorrow nobody picks his worthless ass up. No one

I hear ya, but lets not anoint Carlos the probowl yet, there's plenty of season left & he has a history of playing very well for stretches but for whatever reason not having a great year throughout.

I wish Los could've re-signed but he had attitude issues over the years & felt he deserved big $. The fact he signed for only 1 yr. says a lot about his value. Ideally I would like to see LL stay & reach his potential, but if he is like Los & demands top $ I think it will be hard to justify paying him that much.

[firstdown]

If I'm correct only three teams have given up fewer points then the Skins. Our issues is not our D its our O and their lack of doing anything. I also thought Fletcher was getting into it with D Hall not Laron.

[The Goat]

I once thought of LL as a bust. He's not a bust, but for a 6th (?) overall pick he's a disappointment. 6th overall picks should have the talent and physical ability to be a truly elite player, and Laron only has the physical. He's best described as a poor man's Roy Williams (from the Cowboys) because LL misses the big hit too often and isn't really feared.

[MTK]

I dunno, trash talk has never really bothered me. A lot of guys talk, it's part of their game.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I dunno, trash talk has never really bothered me. A lot of guys talk, it's part of their game.

Doesn't bother me either.....that is until they don't back it up.

[SmootSmack]

Is there a "Sean Taylor" effect? Meaning have people set an expectation of we look to LL to be what Sean Taylor was becoming?

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Is there a "Sean Taylor" effect? Meaning have people set an expectation of we look to LL to be what Sean Taylor was becoming?

I will not pretend to speak for others here but as for me, I had not even thought about this kind of linkage/corrolation until you mentioned it here.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Is there a "Sean Taylor" effect? Meaning have people set an expectation of we look to LL to be what Sean Taylor was becoming?

Not for me, I mean it's been 4 years, it's time to let it go. After his good start last year I expected him to take the next step since he returned from injury this year, but so far he hasn't.

[Alvin Walton]

That was four years ago, never crossed my mind either.

[freddyg12]

same here, wasn't thinking of ST either. Interestingly, his first few years he had similar issues w/discipline in coverage & sadly in his final year he'd lost weight & really became the elite safety we knew he could be.