Jim Haslett's inconsist defense

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Uh...have you watched this years games? Cofield has been stellar at NT given this is his first year ever playing that position, which leads me to believe given another year he'll be fantastic. Orakpo..overated..really?? People are looking at stats, and you have to consider Kerrigan is getting some sacks, Bowen has like 6 or 7, cofield, neild all have contributed to the sack total. Raks sacks will naturally be down given the production increase of surrounding players. I am not seeing anything true in any of the statements you have made. We have elite players on the D, Rak is only 3 years in, but made 2 probowls his first 2 years. Fletch is elite, leads the NFL in tackles at 36, I believe Hall has done a decent job.. but corners are effected by the safties, and we haven't had any help from Landry or #20 all season. Give these guys another off season, add some talent around them and we'll be a top 5 unit. We'll never be an elite D if we keep changing coaches and schemes every damn two years. I am sick of the constant change

I'm sorry bro, but Rak is overrated. I don't know if you've seen his stat line vs NFC East opponents, but he's horrible. And when was the last time he had an interception, a multiple sack game -- or even a game changing sack? Sure he get's double team, but it seems to be working. All the great pass rushers and outside linebackers get their share of double teams, but it seems they have a way of taking Rak completely out of the game. No one's saying he's a bust or should be traded, but I don't think he's a top 5 guy right now.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm sorry bro, but Rak is overrated. I don't know if you've seen his stat line vs NFC East opponents, but he's horrible. And when was the last time he had an interception, a multiple sack game -- or even a game changing sack? Sure he get's double team, but it seems to be working. All the great pass rushers and outside linebackers get their share of double teams, but it seems they have a way of taking Rak completely out of the game. No one's saying he's a bust or should be traded, but I don't think he's a top 5 guy right now.

I honestly think so fans refuse to be happy or likes to complain and be miserable. It is his 2nd year in this D, 2nd playing OLB, and yeah his stats are down but dont you think that could be a result of the players around him. I dont believe he is overrated, if he was he wouldn't get doubled and chipped the entire game. Obviously O-coordinators dont think he's overrated.

[MTK]

I'd give JH another year. The D has improved a lot this year, we just need to add a few more pieces and let this thing really come together.

[Bushead]

One of the few games where the Defense lets us down and we want to fire the coach. Psssh.

[SkinItup]

I'm not big on JH either. But he has done a solid job. There is nothing in his body of work with the Skins that suggests he should be fired.

Pros: He converts a good 4-3 to an above average 3-4 in 2 years. He has gotten our sacks and turnovers up.

Cons: Scheme has lacked much surprise relying on blitzes for sacks. Defense lacks closing ability, both Cowboy games, Minnesota, NY jets, and Miami game this year the defense folded in the 4th.

[tmandoug1]

Please see D. Hall and Mr. Doughty for any questions regarding our incosistant defense. All other questions will be answered if you push 7 on your keypad.

[SFREDSKIN]

Damn!! Richie looked good and I bet can still coach.

Richie Petitbon ROF Induction

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SkinItup

I'm not big on JH either. But he has done a solid job. There is nothing in his body of work with the Skins that suggests he should be fired.

Pros: He converts a good 4-3 to an above average 3-4 in 2 years. He has gotten our sacks and turnovers up.

Cons: Scheme has lacked much surprise relying on blitzes for sacks. Defense lacks closing ability, both Cowboy games, Minnesota, NY jets, and Miami game this year the defense folded in the 4th.

With the 3-4 you have to blitz. Very few, if any, 3-4 can get pressure if not blitzing. Closing those games were more on blown individual assignments than a combined effort by the total team defense.

Haslett is doing a fantastic job by what he was given, and transforming this D into a very very good 3-4 defense.

[The Goat]

Sup w/ the quote box errors? Looks like I responded to myself...as if I wasn't a big enough ahole already now I'm forced to carry on my own conversations too...

[REDSKINS4ever]

The problem with coach Haslett's defense is the secondary. Last year everybody was struggling in this 3-4 scheme- the defensive linemen, the linebackers, and the entire secondary. But while the play of the defensive line has gotten way better, and the linebackers are doing a tremendous job not only in rushing the passer but in coverage also, the secondary remains the weak link in this defense. Josh Wilson played sloppily earlier in the season and got beat alot, but he's played wonderfully since the New England game. DeAngelo Hall hasn't put together one solid game all year. He did okay against the NYG in their second contest, but he still left much to be desired. Hall has been scorched and burned all year. There's no reason to even mention LaRon Landry. The guy needs surgery. He and O.J. Atogwe have been injured all season and while Atogwe has played some decent football, he still hasn't played up to the level that he played when he was in St. Louis.

Mike Shanahan really needs to take a painstaking look at this secondary and consider upgrading it in the offseason.

[Chico23231]

Last year new defense was implemented and we struggled. This year, we improved to a mid-level, decent defense. So we improved a ton. Our starting safeties were out most the year and our nickle corner position was maybe our worst position on d. We have seen good improvement, so no way im getting rid of Haselett. Even though i hatte inconsist

[CultBrennan59]

NFL Videos: Sound FX: Ryan Kerrigan
Nice video of Kerrigan wired for sound.

[#56fanatic]

Somebody help me understand why Haslett is so bad. I am just not seeing it. We went from 31st to 13th in total D, top 5 in NFL on 3rd down which is a very important part of a good defense, top 5 in sacks. I am just not getting it. From 31st to 13th in one year, one draft, one free agency...

Aren't you jumping the gun. The complaint about mobile QB's, well I remember Vick whipping on Greg Williams D when he was with the Falcons. Newton hasn't been contained by any D this year. Some Redskins fans are just never satisfied. What do you want a #1 defense? Well, get rid of Haslett and that wish will be WAY further from reality than if we keep him.

Haslett has transformed this defense in one freaking season. We have talent all over the field and give him one more draft, one more FA period and I really think we are going to be outstanding.

[CultBrennan59]

Mike Lombardi on Inside the NFL said that Haslett could be fired

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Mike Lombardi on Inside the NFL said that Haslett could be fired

I don't think that's quite what he said. He said there could be some surprises and some changes to the staff. I suppose one could imply he meant Haslett