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Old 04-09-2012, 09:48 PM   #1
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Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense

I exspect big things from our offense. 1st thing I think the running game will be in the top 5 of the league. The combination of RGIII, Hightower, Helu, Royster and Rainey (Yes I'm calling Chris being drafted by us) will be hard to stop. Each player brings something different.

The passing game will certaintly rely on the recievers ability to get open break the jam and seperate from the defense. Last years our guys couldn't do that. I think Cooley will be healthy and the speed on the field will hard to manage.

Whether we can beat the blitz will be the most important part. Because of how dangerous we can be- teams will bring the heat. The goal will be to hit RGIII every play whether has the ball or not. How will he respond to that? Time will tell.
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:59 PM   #2
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What's the hate on cam Newton for? All the kid did was bust his ass and shut up doubters and crush rookie QB records.. and to say he's not pass first? 4000 yards??
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:32 AM   #3
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Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense

I see our offense with RG3 almost as capable of moving the ball as any team in the NFC. Minus experience at qb , our skill postion as as talented as any team in the NFC . We may not have that C Johnson or L Fitzgerald at WR , however have 2 TE's , and 4 WR's to go along w/ Helu Royster @ RB , we should have a number of big plays . We may need Moss to stay fresh all year , or either Hankerson , Armstrong or Paul to really step up their game to make us scary . I really think OLine is the key , if we can run early and often , and even have RG3 make some 20 yd games , Shanny should be able to execute his game plan well enough to sweep the turds and iggles . Wishing J. Brown and Kory to be @ 100 % this year along with Cooley . By the way , as I looked at the rosters of the 2011 playoff teams , QB was the only skill position that stood out as far as difference in talent ?
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:52 AM   #4
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Re: Griffin's Impact on our Offense

I'll wait til I see a season of RG3 in the NFL before comparing him to last year's ROY.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:25 AM   #5
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I'll wait til I see a season of RG3 in the NFL before comparing him to last year's ROY.
Number-wise and record-wise, RGIII should have a better rookie year. Newton really only had Steve Smith to throw to. Griff has a ton of quality WRs and two great TEs. Similar skill levels, but RGIII will have more help surrounding him, plus better coaches. Newton is not a very accurate passer either, he threw almost as many INTs as TDs (21/17). Newton will always have more running stats, 706 yards and 14 TDs may due to his lack of WRs though.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:14 PM   #6
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Number-wise and record-wise, RGIII should have a better rookie year. Newton really only had Steve Smith to throw to. Griff has a ton of quality WRs and two great TEs. Similar skill levels, but RGIII will have more help surrounding him, plus better coaches. Newton is not a very accurate passer either, he threw almost as many INTs as TDs (21/17). Newton will always have more running stats, 706 yards and 14 TDs may due to his lack of WRs though.
newton had 60% completion for the season, which is above the league avg. the ints probably were bad reads, being a rookie. he, for the most part, is an accurate QB
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:19 PM   #7
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newton had 60% completion for the season, which is above the league avg. the ints probably were bad reads, being a rookie. he, for the most part, is an accurate QB
Cam Newton, QB for the Carolina Panthers at NFL.com

Cam Newton actually completed 60% of his passes as a rookie. I first I thought that he had completed a higher percentage than that. Newton also threw for 21 TDs and 17 INTs and threw for 4,000 yards. His passer rating after 16 games played was 84.0. That's very impressive numbers for a rookie QB.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:34 PM   #8
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Number-wise and record-wise, RGIII should have a better rookie year. Newton really only had Steve Smith to throw to. Griff has a ton of quality WRs and two great TEs. Similar skill levels, but RGIII will have more help surrounding him, plus better coaches.
Our defense is much better then theirs and our kick coverage is better.
Therefore I agree with you that there is a good chance that the Burgundy and Gold will have a better record this year then the Panthers had last year. (6-10)

But the Panthers receiving corps (including the TEs) was pretty good.
They played better then they looked on paper namely Brandon LaFell proved to be a pretty dang good number 2.

At this point I would say our WRs corps are even.
We added some quality talent and our 3,4 and 5 WRs are probably better then theirs.

No when it comes to the offensive line its not even close their OL is far better then ours.
And rookie QBs are usually more dependent upon pass protection then veteran QBs.

Coaching staff is a toss up.
I would say that Rob Chudzinski is at least as good an OC as Kyle Shanahan.

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Newton is not a very accurate passer either, he threw almost as many INTs as TDs (21/17). Newton will always have more running stats, 706 yards and 14 TDs may due to his lack of WRs though
I don't know what you mean by Newton 'is not a very accurate passer'?
You're gonna hold a 21/17 TD/INT ratio against a rookie QB?
You realize that ratio is good for a rookie right?
(You should look up Peyton Mannings)

You concede Newton's rushing yards and rushing TDs as if the don't represent a huge benefit in sustaining driving and scoring points.
You realize that Newton's 14 rushing TDs helped him reach a total of 35 TDs which were more then we scored as a team?
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:49 AM   #9
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Cam is a stud and barring injury hard to imagine him regressing, but even if he takes a step back he's still a top QB and arguably the most exciting to watch.

Griffin doesn't have the body to rumble w/ the ball as Cam does. Realistically Griffin has to be a pass first QB who can burn the defense w/ his legs.
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Cam is a stud and barring injury hard to imagine him regressing, but even if he takes a step back he's still a top QB and arguably the most exciting to watch.

Griffin doesn't have the body to rumble w/ the ball as Cam does. Realistically Griffin has to be a pass first QB who can burn the defense w/ his legs.
Lucky for us that's what he is.
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:06 PM   #11
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Lucky for us that's what he is.
Are you sure? That sounds like a myth to me. A quarterback who can pass and run? It'd be like having your cake and eating it too. Hoo boy just thinking about it gives me delusional fantasies. Imagine a quarterback who runs around in the backfield buying time to throw amazing spirals downfield. Goodness gracious!
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:07 PM   #12
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Lucky for us that's what he is.
I think so too. Watching his games from Baylor I find myself thinking about how calm, cool and collected Griffin looks in the pocket. If he can carry that into pro along w/ his physical abilities, talents and work ethic we have ourselves the real deal.
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:16 PM   #13
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Cam is a stud and barring injury hard to imagine him regressing, but even if he takes a step back he's still a top QB and arguably the most exciting to watch.

Griffin doesn't have the body to rumble w/ the ball as Cam does. Realistically Griffin has to be a pass first QB who can burn the defense w/ his legs.
RG3 can outrun the entire defense from end zone to end zone. I'd assume that he's capable of doing this even against the top NFL defenses. Guys like Michael Vick and Vince Young will have the ball snapped to them and then they'll take off running. Rg3 looks for receivers to get open and if none of them do then he'll take off running. The thing is, even if defenses use a LB to spy Griffin, I'm sure he'd be athletic enough to get by them.
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RG3 can outrun the entire defense from end zone to end zone. I'd assume that he's capable of doing this even against the top NFL defenses. Guys like Michael Vick and Vince Young will have the ball snapped to them and then they'll take off running. Rg3 looks for receivers to get open and if none of them do then he'll take off running. The thing is, even if defenses use a LB to spy Griffin, I'm sure he'd be athletic enough to get by them.
Totally agreed. As much as RGIII is a past first QB, he has elite scrambling ability, and I can't wait to see the first designed bootleg run for a TD.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:28 AM   #15
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Playaction roll-out. Respect that.
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