Signing Ochocinco: Te gusta?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins have wide receivers that are all better than Chad Johnson. Would it be wise for Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan to entertain the thought of acquiring Johnson? If one of our receivers go down with an injury, they will surely look to the practice squad for an addition before even looking Johnson's way.

This seems to be the crux of it and there's room for honest debate. I think we have one proven WR better than Ocho (Moss) and three question marks (Garcon, Hank, Morgan). I haven't seen anything from our younger guys to really deserve comment...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This seems to be the crux of it and there's room for honest debate. I think we have one proven WR better than Ocho (Moss) and three question marks (Garcon, Hank, Morgan). I haven't seen anything from our younger guys to really deserve comment...

How does Garcon qualify as a question mark?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

How does Garcon qualify as a question mark?

Garcon's only solid season was more a result of injury to other players than him breaking out. He's been inconsistent otherwise at best. I get he's a high potential guy, but counting on him as a consistent #1 or even #2 WR right off the bat is the same old pipe dream this franchise and fanbase has experienced time and again.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

How does Garcon qualify as a question mark?

One really outstanding year? The year with out their #1 QB playing or #1 WR playing? All his earlier yrs he was second fiddle and really didn't stand out. Heck many in the media and here wonder why we spent so much money on him. Now all of a sudden he's the top dog? Ok.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This seems to be the crux of it and there's room for honest debate. I think we have one proven WR better than Ocho (Moss) and three question marks (Garcon, Hank, Morgan). I haven't seen anything from our younger guys to really deserve comment...

That's just it. The three in question, only one of them had a great year, two got injured and those two showed some promis prior to getting injured. I think we all had issues with Hank going to the ground after the majority of his catches instead of trying to get more yards.

Out of the rest only AA stands out. One would think Austin, Robertson, and Paul would be doing better at this point. Instead they are moving Paul to TE. I'd easily replace Austin and Robertson with CJ.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

How does Garcon qualify as a question mark?

He's not Gaffney.

[FRPLG]

"2nd biggest talent/threat after Moss"

Haha...you're funny. I see what you did there.

[FRPLG]

When you say "2nd biggest..after Moss" you mean there is one other guy who is a bigger threat right after Moss but there are 3 others who are bigger threats than all of them right? Because any other interpretation is ludicrous.

[MTK]

I feel like we keeping spinning the same tired record regarding WRs.

[los panda]

it's june. they can't all be henry ellard

[SmootSmack]

So Goat...if I'm reading you right, you're into a win now, damn the future approach?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So Goat...if I'm reading you right, you're into a win now, damn the future approach?

I mean realistically we're not built to win now. However, getting Griffin the best targets especially now as a rookie is wise, right? Help build his confidence w/ early success. Randy Moss would fit the mold as an awesome possession WR and end zone target. Burress to a lesser extent than Moss but still worth brining in. Ocho also to a lesser extent than Moss but worth bringing into camp IMO. What if he decides brings his A game, studies hard and plays lights out...wouldn't it be worth it?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I mean realistically we're not built to win now. However, getting Griffin the best targets especially now as a rookie is wise, right? Help build his confidence w/ early success. Randy Moss would fit the mold as an awesome possession WR and end zone target. Burress to a lesser extent than Moss but still worth brining in. Ocho also to a lesser extent than Moss but worth bringing into camp IMO. What if he decides brings his A game, studies hard and plays lights out...wouldn't it be worth it?

I don't really agree. I think Moss and Cooley (let's assume for now both stay) are proven receivers for RGIII. While Morgan and Garcon aren't slouches. Then you add some up and comers in Paul, Hankerson, and possibly Robinson.

Let RGIII grow with these guys and let those guys grow with RGIII.

I gotta say for someone who so frequently blasted Vinny's approach I find that you're essentially advocating the same approach. I understand that you're not talking about trading multiple picks for Ocho, but you're still talking about going for the probably past his prime veteran for the quick fix

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't really agree. I think Moss and Cooley (let's assume for now both stay) are proven receivers for RGIII. While Morgan and Garcon aren't slouches. Then you add some up and comers in Paul, Hankerson, and possibly Robinson.

Let RGIII grow with these guys and let those guys grow with RGIII.

I gotta say for someone who so frequently blasted Vinny's approach I find that you're essentially advocating the same approach. I understand that you're not talking about trading multiple picks for Ocho, but you're still talking about going for the probably past his prime veteran for the quick fix

Couldn't disagree more w/ this. In fact I think the current FO is closer to Vinny's approach in regard to the Garcon signing. I understand he's an up and comer w/ potential...so we paid big money for potential rather than proven quantities. Randy Moss, Burress or Ocho are all low risk/low dollar/ potential high reward type signings.

Cooley is wait and see and Tana is money in the endzone but a small target. I think Fred is our only big end zone threat right now short of Garcon, Morgan or Hank breaking into that role. I give those three guys altogether about a 25% probability of growing into the end zone target we need. Randy Moss or Burress (still) would be a great addition for Griffin.

In other words, by all probability I highly, highly doubt we have the "final" tools Griffin will need to be elite at the pro level. Why not keep looking?

[r08kessl]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Couldn't disagree more w/ this. In fact I think the current FO is closer to Vinny's approach in regard to the Garcon signing. I understand he's an up and comer w/ potential...so we paid big money for potential rather than proven quantities. Randy Moss, Burress or Ocho are all low risk/low dollar/ potential high reward type signings.

Cooley is wait and see and Tana is money in the endzone but a small target. I think Fred is our only big end zone threat right now short of Garcon, Morgan or Hank breaking into that role. I give those three guys altogether about a 25% probability of growing into the end zone target we need. Randy Moss or Burress (still) would be a great addition for Griffin.

In other words, by all probability I highly, highly doubt we have the "final" tools Griffin will need to be elite at the pro level. Why not keep looking?

By low risk you mean a bunch of divas with a tendency toward unloading firearms into their own extremities who would present an overwhelming distraction on a team that has had FAR too many distractions over the years (Haynesworth, Mcnabb, drug suspensions, etc, etc, etc)?