Trade Deadline: Any movement?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

LOL Moss is avg , Welker is the best Slot WR in the league and argubly is a#1 WR . No way is Moss on welkers level even if he was in NE Moss will never be like Welker.

It has so much to do with situation though. If Welker was on the skins / jets over these last 10 years do you think people even know his name? Do you think having tom brady throw you the ball for all these years will help or hinder your career? Do yourself a favor, and check out moss career stats. Now imagine him with Brady all those years. Now add about 50 td's, 7,500 yards, and 250 catches to those totals. Hows Moss stack up now? Having brady get you the ball as compared to grossman, ramsey, campbell, etc etc is night and day. Moss has had to fight for every catch hes ever made. Welker is the recipient of a hall of famer putting the ball exactly where it has needed to be for years.


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[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It has so much to do with situation though. If Welker was on the skins / jets over these last 10 years do you think people even know his name? Do you think having tom brady throw you the ball for all these years will help or hinder your career? Do yourself a favor, and check out moss career stats. Now imagine him with Brady all those years. Now add about 50 td's, 7,500 yards, and 250 catches to those totals. Hows Moss stack up now? Having brady get you the ball as compared to grossman, ramsey, campbell, etc etc is night and day. Moss has had to fight for every catch hes ever made. Welker is the recipient of a hall of famer putting the ball exactly where it has needed to be for years.


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Welker was already decent in Miami they just had made a mistake its fine . But I find it funny how alot of you in here believe Moss is some what would be on the level of Welker? how so ? if you watch both of them play they are not on the same level.makes it even worst on him 5-6 diff QBs and hes the same thing all the time?, how do you the fans know if Wes Welker can not help the skins for those QB's? maybe Wes Welker is just better?I highly doubt Moss gets 122 rec in his career ever if any of you believe that it just shows hw much u love him.


I have no beef with Moss either but its kinda crazy to put that excuse there. Its like saying what if Mcnabb in 010 had his 04 team in B$G? if Mcnabb was good he would of simply shown it. Thats how it is in the NFL Peyton new jersey lesser weapons and new system and is on pace for 30 td's again.

[skinsfaninok]

Florio saying Bowe wants Ou t and Miami is a logical fit

[Glasgow Celtic]

Originally Posted by punch it in

It has so much to do with situation though. If Welker was on the skins / jets over these last 10 years do you think people even know his name? Do you think having tom brady throw you the ball for all these years will help or hinder your career? Do yourself a favor, and check out moss career stats. Now imagine him with Brady all those years. Now add about 50 td's, 7,500 yards, and 250 catches to those totals. Hows Moss stack up now? Having brady get you the ball as compared to grossman, ramsey, campbell, etc etc is night and day. Moss has had to fight for every catch hes ever made. Welker is the recipient of a hall of famer putting the ball exactly where it has needed to be for years.


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Bravo sir, well said!

[skinsfaninok]

Guys Santana moss is a damn good player and one of the best redskin wrs really of all time if u look at his numbers and longevity but he's not a wes welker type of player, idk if moss could take the hits wes does, u have to remember welker goes across the middle almost every snap, that's balls right there.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Guys Santana moss is a damn good player and one of the best redskin wrs really of all time if u look at his numbers and longevity but he's not a wes welker type of player, idk if moss could take the hits wes does, u have to remember welker goes across the middle almost every snap, that's balls right there.

Thank you!!!lol Welker is a consistent player and Moss is not .


I wanna know this question to every one who would u rather have Moss or Welker on the skins team? like right now?. If Wes was here he would be our #1guy no doubt about it .

BTW Dwayne Bowe wants to be traded .

[theJBexperience]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

BTW Dwayne Bowe wants to be traded .

I'd bet he'd love to play w/ RGIII too. If Garçon was healthy, I'd see no need, but we could go deep into the playoffs if we had a true # 1 like Bowe. What would it take to get a deal done? I cant see Pioli trading him either. It would essentially be like turning in his resignation as GM.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

Thank you!!!lol Welker is a consistent player and Moss is not .


I wanna know this question to every one who would u rather have Moss or Welker on the skins team? like right now?. If Wes was here he would be our #1guy no doubt about it .

BTW Dwayne Bowe wants to be traded .

and if he was the #1 his production would greatly decline.

he's great because he's in the slot, in a mismatch coverage or zone against nickels and LBs EVERY DOWN. Moss was on the outside his entire career here as a #1 he was not suited for, and either is Welker. Put welker on the outside as a number one and he'd look just like Moss did here, and vice versa with Moss in the slot in N.E. .... lol welker is a tough, fast reciever but his stats are a product of his system, working the slot his whole career and brady.. and thats it.

[Deivybaby]

Originally Posted by Meks

and if he was the #1 his production would greatly decline.

he's great because he's in the slot, in a mismatch coverage or zone against nickels and LBs EVERY DOWN. Moss was on the outside his entire career here as a #1 he was not suited for, and either is Welker. Put welker on the outside as a number one and he'd look just like Moss did here, and vice versa with Moss in the slot in N.E. .... lol welker is a tough, fast reciever but his stats are a product of his system, working the slot his whole career and brady.. and thats it.

To keep this short and sweet would you rather have wes or moss here right now . Slot or no slot.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

To keep this short and sweet would you rather have wes or moss here right now . Slot or no slot.

moss

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

To keep this short and sweet would you rather have wes or moss here right now . Slot or no slot.

Moss. for every reason from salary to locker room to scheme fit.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

Thank you!!!lol Welker is a consistent player and Moss is not .


I wanna know this question to every one who would u rather have Moss or Welker on the skins team? like right now?. If Wes was here he would be our #1guy no doubt about it .

BTW Dwayne Bowe wants to be traded .

i would rather have moss on the team, like right now. welker wants to get paid, his contract is up after this season. he's not a building block for the future. he would have to learn the playbook, develop chemistry, etc.

moss is already here w the playbook in hand, and has been developing chemistry w griff for months. i think welker's cap number is $9.5M? moss' is half that?

wes welker is not a #1 wr

[Deivybaby]

[QUOTE=los panda;953675]i would rather have moss on the team, like right now. welker wants to get paid, his contract is up after this season. he's not a building block for the future. he would have to learn the playbook, develop chemistry, etc.

moss is already here w the playbook in hand, and has been developing chemistry w griff for months. i think welker's cap number is $9.5M? moss' is half that?

wes welker is not a #1 wr[/QUOTE]

LOL WOWWWWWWWWW .Fine put salary cap out than. I cant believe ive just read some one saying they want Moss over Welker.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Guys Santana moss is a damn good player and one of the best redskin wrs really of all time if u look at his numbers and longevity but he's not a wes welker type of player, idk if moss could take the hits wes does, u have to remember welker goes across the middle almost every snap, that's balls right there.

I think welker is great. Underrated even by most. They are totally different Moss was a burner for most of his career. We will never know how their careers would have turned out had Moss been the recipient of Tom Brady passes and Welker was catching balls from - well - sub par qb's on lack luster offenses. But i personally think Moss's numbers would be much greater and welkers much lower. Its just common sense. On top of that if you put them both on Bradys teams for equal time in their prime i think Moss would be the better of the two.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

Welker was already decent in Miami they just had made a mistake its fine . But I find it funny how alot of you in here believe Moss is some what would be on the level of Welker? how so ? if you watch both of them play they are not on the same level.makes it even worst on him 5-6 diff QBs and hes the same thing all the time?, how do you the fans know if Wes Welker can not help the skins for those QB's? maybe Wes Welker is just better?I highly doubt Moss gets 122 rec in his career ever if any of you believe that it just shows hw much u love him.


I have no beef with Moss either but its kinda crazy to put that excuse there. Its like saying what if Mcnabb in 010 had his 04 team in B$G? if Mcnabb was good he would of simply shown it. Thats how it is in the NFL Peyton new jersey lesser weapons and new system and is on pace for 30 td's again.

First of all - jerry rice could not have helped any of the redskins qb's moss played with. Think about who we are speaking of? Ramsey? Rex grossman? John beck? Donovan mcnabb ( well after his best days were past him) ? Jason campbell? Really? Tom freakin brady is a first ballot - sure fire - hall of famer. Welker was great on special teams with the dolphins - and showed flashes as a wr. Which - and not coincidentally i will add - were bought to the surface when he joined new england and the aforementioned tom.freaking brady started throwing him the ball! Lol.


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