Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[44ever]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

Gibbs was here 4 years.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mooby

Gibbs was here 4 years.

Gibbs doesn't count, cuz he's Gibbs. No one would dream of firing him. :P Although I remember people calling for his head too.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Gibbs doesn't count, cuz he's Gibbs. No one would dream of firing him. :P Although I remember people calling for his head too.

No my point was you said no coach since Norval has lasted more than 3 years, which Gibbs did. It wasn't so much about whether he deserved to be fired. I remember fans calling for Gibbs' head too, saying he was out-of-touch, etc. I definitely didn't want Gibbs to leave either.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by mooby

Gibbs was here 4 years.

Four years is a lifetime in the national football league. The league is structured, and I'm talking about the cap, the draft method, and FA, such that you can turn a franchise around in just three years. It's been done plenty.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

This is the other part of my problem. He's only been here 3 years and with a franchise that is/was in rebuilding mode. The last coach that coached here for over 3 years was NORV TURNER and they fired him in 2000. All other coaches have been here for 3 years or less.

To me that's a glaring consistency problem.

Except Zorn. He needed to go.

You know whats funny about that whole thing?

Jim Zorn (and I am in no way saying he should have ever been a HC) had, with a MUCH MUCH crappier team, a better winning percentage than Mike Shanahan did with the Redskins. AND he had Mr. Cerrato to contend with as well. Maybe its time people take a few seconds to stop and smell the Folgers, and realize maybe Allen and Shanahan just might not be the saviors all of us envisioned. I understand the longing for consistency, but if you cannot at least get close to the playoffs with an NFL caliber squad in the past 7 years of head coaching, you are just not that good of a coach. No matter if you won 2 super bowls with arguably the top quarterback of all time. You're just not.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

You know whats funny about that whole thing?

Jim Zorn (and I am in no way saying he should have ever been a HC) had, with a MUCH MUCH crappier team, a better winning percentage than Mike Shanahan did with the Redskins. AND he had Mr. Cerrato to contend with as well. Maybe its time people take a few seconds to stop and smell the Folgers, and realize maybe Allen and Shanahan just might not be the saviors all of us envisioned. I understand the longing for consistency, but if you cannot at least get close to the playoffs with an NFL caliber squad in the past 7 years of head coaching, you are just not that good of a coach. No matter if you won 2 super bowls with arguably the top quarterback of all time. You're just not.

The team was worse? They were 8-8 and had 4 Pro Bowl players on that team. (2008) Portis rushed for almost 1500 yards. Campbell had 3000+ yards and more TDs than INTs.

And you can't possibly be saying they were better in 2009 because we finished 4-12.

I don't think we're THAT bad.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

The team was worse? They were 8-8 and had 4 Pro Bowl players on that team. (2008) Portis rushed for almost 1500 yards. Campbell had 3000+ yards and more TDs than INTs.

And you can't possibly be saying they were better in 2009 because we finished 4-12.

I don't think we're THAT bad.

Ok, so circular logic begs me to ask the question that if we weren't all that bad, why in the hell did it need rebuilding so horribly. Did we fall off so much from 2008 to 2009? I think the VAST majority of people on this board have been caught saying that the team Shanahan took over in 2009 was quite possibly the most atrocious squad ever to don the B&G. The year prior to Shanahan, our defense was ranked top 10, and while not good, we still churned out 22nd in the league in offense. The point is that he hasn't done much with 3 years here to instill any sort of confidence. RG3, 110 out of 100 people could hit on that pick. Shanahan is coaching here based SOLELY on previous accolades (from the 97 -98 seasons). And it shows.

[ethat001]

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[44ever]

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Funny, I'm tired of the exact opposite.

Why shouldn't the WR's get raked over the coals for all the drops?

They should Matty as should the turnover issue last week be put on the players. However arent these Shannys guys that are playing like jerks? I dont think its possible to always point to the lack of talent without than pointing to the guy who assembled it?


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[44ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

They should Matty as should the turnover issue last week be put on the players. However arent these Shannys guys that are playing like jerks? I dont think its possible to always point to the lack of talent without than pointing to the guy who assembled it?


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[redskins5044]

Fire all the coaches tomorrow and move the franchise to London.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 44ever

The guys that agreed to bring him on the team.

Hello there. Congratulations for going to the place where nobody wants to go! The land of truth.


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[44ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Hello there. Congratulations for going to the place where nobody wants to go! The land of truth.


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