Official Skins sign Patten thread (merged)

[MTK]

6'3 210 is a good size for a WR even nowadays would you agree, so yes back when Monk was in his prime he was larger than your typical WR of the day, that's all I'm saying.

[Daseal]

He averaged 18 yards per catch in a DIFFERENT OFFENSE. What do you think Coles YPC would have been as a Patriot?

[wolfeskins]

my point is he gets open down field. he has quickness to go with his speed , something, i think, coles did not have.

[wolfeskins]

when the safeties drop down to help against the run and patten is in a one on one , patten can get open most of the time. coles was really strugling to do that .

[kingerock]

Originally Posted by Daseal

He averaged 18 yards per catch in a DIFFERENT OFFENSE. What do you think Coles YPC would have been as a Patriot?

It seems Coles has to be the man on offense, so we will probably never know what his YPC would have been with a TEAM like the Patriots. He came on with the Skins to be Spurrier's superstar, he wants out because he doesn't want to play 2nd fiddle to Portis

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by Daseal

He averaged 18 yards per catch in a DIFFERENT OFFENSE. What do you think Coles YPC would have been as a Patriot?

i agree but 18.2 is much above the average for wr, he is number 3 in yards per catch with anyone with over 40 catches. he had fewer catches but a reason for that is because he is not a number 1 and because the patriots spread the ball well.
Just for kicks and giggles the number 1 and 2 with over 40 are Ashley Lelie
and Santana Moss. Not to bad names!!
I just hope that he fits well and it seems that he is good when he gets open

[MTK]

Coles couldn't hack it on the Pats, not enough balls to go his way, LOL

[offiss]

Monk was defiently a big possession type reciever 6'3" and 215lbs was aa big WR back in the day, as for Patton he's more of a ricky Sander's type player he will stretch the defense. so long as his contract is reasonable I like the signing I still believe we have to go out and get that big reciever possession type reciever to give Ramsey a big target in the red zone.

[Luxorreb]

The Smurfs are back!
I'm so happy to have added David Patten! I was scared with the Redskins recent past that we'd pick up Burress. Patten is a proven WR where as Burress is about as reliable as Gardner in the catch department while being quite speedy on the flats. Burress like Gardner seems to fail in properly excuting his routes consistantly. Patten can fly and will catch most balls. And what is the stat last season? 37 1st downs on 44 catches? Uh noone on our team can top that. Burress? Hell no. Patten is good person and a proven great player who we didn't have to spend ridiculous money for. He's got 3 rings, same as Gibbs. Although Patten never lost a SB. Great signing. Rabach great signing. Please sign Smoot. I just hope that Fred agrees to somewhere close to 10 million then add incentives on to make it a possible 14 million and stays in DC. I'm not surprised by Pierce going to NYG cause we couldn't afford to pay him what they did, however they paid to have the leader of Williams defense. Division rival defensive team leader... If the guy was in a wheelchair it might be advantageous to sign him! Reguardless of what Pierce spills to the enemy (by the way Pierce coulda been a Redskin for life with good money) we can still blitz Manning.

[That Guy]

patten is seriously under rated i think, and he was the #1 WR for a while in NE last year and remained consistant whether he got the #1 or #2 CB, so i think he's probably more important than just a #2 WR.. a smurf for sure, but he can play.

[jbcjr14]

Not alot of talk about this on here??? I think this is a significant addition to the team. Experience and productivity are the bright spots not too mention speed. Good possession receiver for some crossing routes.

What does everyone think?

[That Guy]

this is the 3rd-4th thread, general feeling is its a very very solid pickup, but we're still taking williams if he's available.

realy patten is capable of being a better #1 than a player like S. moss, but he's an excellent #2 and can provide the deep route seperation coles is no longer able to... oh yeah, he can also catch the ball, which is always a plus.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

this is the 3rd-4th thread, general feeling is its a very very solid pickup, but we're still taking williams if he's available.

realy patten is capable of being a better #1 than a player like S. moss, but he's an excellent #2 and can provide the deep route seperation coles is no longer able to... oh yeah, he can also catch the ball, which is always a plus.

I disagree, we should take the best talent that is there when it is our turn to pick. We have gotten into trouble in the past when we have picked for need.
I have a feeling we will picking a defensive player (LB or CB or SS).

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I disagree, we should take the best talent that is there when it is our turn to pick. We have gotten into trouble in the past when we have picked for need.
I have a feeling we will picking a defensive player (LB or CB or SS).

Did you seriously just say that we would draft defense? Whatever your smoking, hook it up. And you even mentioned Strong Safety. What team are you talking about? We have the 3rd best defense, the 27th best offense, and your concerned about building the defense. What a joke.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

Did you seriously just say that we would draft defense? Whatever your smoking, hook it up. And you even mentioned Strong Safety. What team are you talking about? We have the 3rd best defense, the 27th best offense, and your concerned about building the defense. What a joke.

Our starting MLB and leader of our D (Pierce) is gone to Giants. MLB Michael Barrow has a bad wheel, did not play a single down last year and is probably gone as well. Who do have in mind to start at MLB? Monksdown on crack?
If you knew something about football, you would know Williams' system is dependent on having good LB's and CB's, including good backups at LB. People were getting upset on this sight last year with the large amount of LB's & CB's we picked during to offseason last year. Considering all the big injuries we had at LB last year (Arrington & Barrow) Williams ended up being right.

Point 2: When you pick near the top of the first round, you have take the best player available. If it that player is not at a position that will help your team or you feel is not worthy of being picked that high you trade down. If you reach for a certain player because of need (WR) you end up wth a Desmond Howard. IMO Braylon Edwars is the only WR worthy of being a top 9 pick. Williams is a big possesion WR and is not very fastest.
Derek Johnson, if available is a top 5 player who happens to be a LB, a position we need to fill.
We also are thin at CB and SS. The reason I say we are this at SS is our talent at SS is good, but not great.