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Hail Raiser
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: RatherbeinDC, TX
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
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Naega jeil jal naga
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 40
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
RG3 easily. Now granted in this scenario Russell Wilson might be the worlds greatest consolation prize but I'd still take RG3. Maybe if the question is which young franchise QB do you trust to be healthier for the next 15 years then I might lean towards Wilson mainly because he has less rushing yards and attempts then RG3.
In regards to why I choose RG3 over Wilson aside from being a homer, I feel that Wilson has the better defense and RG3 has been playing at a top 10 level since week 1 with little to no support defensively, compared to Wilson who didn't hit his current level until November. And this has all taken place in spite of the Redskins offense now being out in the open on film. Same can be said about Wilson but it took Wilson a while to get into the grove. I remember listening to Seattle radio at random early in the season and hearing fans at the very least expect sub 170 yard passing days to be the norm for the foreseeable future and the only reason they got out of that funk came when teams decided to see if Wilson could beat them if they took away Lynch. Griffin on the other hand has carried the team on his back since day 1 hence why I trust him more then Wilson at this point. We all know that Griffin has the capacity to develop into a pocket passer. Heck we're already seeing it. First 6 Games: 7 Passing TD's - 6 Rushing TD's Last 7 Games: 13 Passing TD's - 0 Rushing TD's He's said it from the start that he believes that QB is played best from the pocket and his running ability is a last resort. And I think what we're seeing with his ability in the redzone that he's gotten much more confident finishing off these drives through the air where in his first 6 weeks he tended to fall back on his rushing ability. Also one last thing. Aaron Rodgers at the start of his career was the worlds least durable QB. This was the guy who broke his foot in cleanup duty after Favre left a game in 2006. He also had a hamstring injury that saw him listed as doubtful for four weeks in 2007. Missed one or two games since then. As long as RG3 continues to focus on developing as a pass first QB he will be fine health wise.
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MVP
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 47
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
One of the biggest issues we have on defense since he's been out is that we can't generate pressure out of four man rushes...how does getting rid of our best pass rusher help that? Jackson IS NOT better at that. I'd be shocked to learn anyone felt he was.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
There's no comparison. It should be Wilson or Cousins! If the Skins do play SEA in the playoffs, I'm inclined to think RGIII would make SEA's Richard Sherman eat his words that Wilson is better than RGIII!
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Living Legend
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
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Appeal of the four-game suspension for Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman will be held Friday, two days before game vs. SF.
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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
Bob
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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Washington, D.C.
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
Stop calling RG3 Bob! That is so played out now.
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
Really because RGII seems to be pretty well played...When I say RG3 I expect to see R2D2's cousin.
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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
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Living Legend
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
I understand the question, the comparative cost in hindsight is significant. HOWEVER, at the point of the draft, you would have been gambling this franchise's future for a 5'10 running qb. Shanahan may have been run out of town before the season started, and Wilson never would have gotten the chance to start. Add in the fact that he mainly won in a domed stadium with maybe the best homefield advantage in sports, and lost on the road, we would right now be in the midst of a coaching hunt. And that's before ST/Defense comes in as a factor. Finally, Griffin has held up and flourished under the media scrutiny that this town brings, I don't know how Wilson has done in Seattle, or how he would have done here, but again, I don't think it's a guarantee he succeeds at it like Griffin has.
(to Redskins4Ever: Bob will never be worn out. I dream of the Superbowl trophy being raised, and Danny saying "This one's for Bob", only he doesn't have to wait as long as John did )
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
It's a pretty interesting question. I think if you limit the decision factors to draft picks (traded) and stats it's not crazy to wonder if Wilson would have been the better "deal." When you consider the intangibles it could be a totally different story though. I don't know much about Wilson, but I do know any QB in DC is under intense pressure/limelight and RG has shown extraordinary maturity and character. Wilson may be a real solid dude, but how do you know whether he could handle DC? DC after being sent out to catch a pass against Ryan Clark? DC with a 3-6 record and concern mounting about regime etc?
Wilson, by comparison, has had it pretty easy. Better defense. Better coaching IMO (yeah, I realize everyone disagrees and feel free to post a million face palms, I don't care). Just no telling how he would have held up here. RG's intangibles are as impressive as his stats, and I think Mike and the braintrust recognized that early on.
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Los Angeles
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
griff = 1st in the division
wilson = ? the only player clearly on his last leg is fletcher, everyone else can make it past the cap penalties and the lack of 1st round picks. soon enough, people will stop questioning the griff trade
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
Robert Trois
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob
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Russell plus the 3 1st round picks or Robert? I'll take Russell and the picks. |
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