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Old 12-17-2012, 12:29 PM   #1
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That's true but he's already been hurt twice now running out of the pocket. We were very fortunate that he didn't have a devestating knee injury last week. With his style of play we're going to need a quality back up.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:13 PM   #2
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That's true but he's already been hurt twice now running out of the pocket. We were very fortunate that he didn't have a devestating knee injury last week. With his style of play we're going to need a quality back up.
That pretty much logically sums it up. Nice.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:45 PM   #3
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RG3 easily. Now granted in this scenario Russell Wilson might be the worlds greatest consolation prize but I'd still take RG3. Maybe if the question is which young franchise QB do you trust to be healthier for the next 15 years then I might lean towards Wilson mainly because he has less rushing yards and attempts then RG3.

In regards to why I choose RG3 over Wilson aside from being a homer, I feel that Wilson has the better defense and RG3 has been playing at a top 10 level since week 1 with little to no support defensively, compared to Wilson who didn't hit his current level until November. And this has all taken place in spite of the Redskins offense now being out in the open on film.

Same can be said about Wilson but it took Wilson a while to get into the grove. I remember listening to Seattle radio at random early in the season and hearing fans at the very least expect sub 170 yard passing days to be the norm for the foreseeable future and the only reason they got out of that funk came when teams decided to see if Wilson could beat them if they took away Lynch. Griffin on the other hand has carried the team on his back since day 1 hence why I trust him more then Wilson at this point.

We all know that Griffin has the capacity to develop into a pocket passer. Heck we're already seeing it.

First 6 Games: 7 Passing TD's - 6 Rushing TD's
Last 7 Games: 13 Passing TD's - 0 Rushing TD's

He's said it from the start that he believes that QB is played best from the pocket and his running ability is a last resort. And I think what we're seeing with his ability in the redzone that he's gotten much more confident finishing off these drives through the air where in his first 6 weeks he tended to fall back on his rushing ability.

Also one last thing. Aaron Rodgers at the start of his career was the worlds least durable QB. This was the guy who broke his foot in cleanup duty after Favre left a game in 2006. He also had a hamstring injury that saw him listed as doubtful for four weeks in 2007. Missed one or two games since then. As long as RG3 continues to focus on developing as a pass first QB he will be fine health wise.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:53 AM   #4
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One of the biggest issues we have on defense since he's been out is that we can't generate pressure out of four man rushes...how does getting rid of our best pass rusher help that? Jackson IS NOT better at that. I'd be shocked to learn anyone felt he was.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:01 AM   #5
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There's no comparison. It should be Wilson or Cousins! If the Skins do play SEA in the playoffs, I'm inclined to think RGIII would make SEA's Richard Sherman eat his words that Wilson is better than RGIII!
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:47 PM   #6
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There's no comparison. It should be Wilson or Cousins! If the Skins do play SEA in the playoffs, I'm inclined to think RGIII would make SEA's Richard Sherman eat his words that Wilson is better than RGIII!
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Appeal of the four-game suspension for Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman will be held Friday, two days before game vs. SF.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:30 AM   #7
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:50 AM   #8
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Stop calling RG3 Bob! That is so played out now.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:10 PM   #9
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Stop calling RG3 Bob! That is so played out now.
Really because RGII seems to be pretty well played...When I say RG3 I expect to see R2D2's cousin.


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Old 12-17-2012, 12:29 PM   #10
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Really because RGII seems to be pretty well played...When I say RG3 I expect to see R2D2's cousin.


there is a poster on cowboyszone.com that refers to Griffin as R2D2. I don't get the reference.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:20 PM   #11
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I understand the question, the comparative cost in hindsight is significant. HOWEVER, at the point of the draft, you would have been gambling this franchise's future for a 5'10 running qb. Shanahan may have been run out of town before the season started, and Wilson never would have gotten the chance to start. Add in the fact that he mainly won in a domed stadium with maybe the best homefield advantage in sports, and lost on the road, we would right now be in the midst of a coaching hunt. And that's before ST/Defense comes in as a factor. Finally, Griffin has held up and flourished under the media scrutiny that this town brings, I don't know how Wilson has done in Seattle, or how he would have done here, but again, I don't think it's a guarantee he succeeds at it like Griffin has.

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Old 12-17-2012, 02:02 PM   #12
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It's a pretty interesting question. I think if you limit the decision factors to draft picks (traded) and stats it's not crazy to wonder if Wilson would have been the better "deal." When you consider the intangibles it could be a totally different story though. I don't know much about Wilson, but I do know any QB in DC is under intense pressure/limelight and RG has shown extraordinary maturity and character. Wilson may be a real solid dude, but how do you know whether he could handle DC? DC after being sent out to catch a pass against Ryan Clark? DC with a 3-6 record and concern mounting about regime etc?

Wilson, by comparison, has had it pretty easy. Better defense. Better coaching IMO (yeah, I realize everyone disagrees and feel free to post a million face palms, I don't care). Just no telling how he would have held up here. RG's intangibles are as impressive as his stats, and I think Mike and the braintrust recognized that early on.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:11 PM   #13
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Re: Russel Wilson or Bob

griff = 1st in the division
wilson = ?

the only player clearly on his last leg is fletcher, everyone else can make it past the cap penalties and the lack of 1st round picks.
soon enough, people will stop questioning the griff trade
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:24 PM   #14
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:08 PM   #15
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In hindsight what would have been the better pick for the Skins? Remember Russell allows us to keep all our draft picks. We ahve 3 more first round picks assuming we drafted Wilson in the later rounds.

Just something to chew on.

I think I still take RGIII.
Russell or Robert? I'll take Robert.

Russell plus the 3 1st round picks or Robert? I'll take Russell and the picks.
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